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whassumattuh 12-25-2010 02:14 AM

Coat of Arms
 
Say the Coat of Arms (-2 Arms, allowing you to carry an extra two hands worth of items) is carrying a 2-handed Big Item. Can the Coat of Arms be thieved while it is carrying a Big Item?

StaticHamster 12-25-2010 04:09 AM

Re: Coat of Arms
 
Since Coat of Arms is not a Big Item yes it can.

RevBob 12-25-2010 05:49 AM

Re: Coat of Arms
 
Of course, all you get from the theft is the Coat; nothing it's carrying comes along for the ride. I'm sure you already knew that, but just to cover all the bases...

EpicJoe 02-09-2011 11:09 AM

Re: Coat of Arms
 
Ok, I guess I'm slow, but I don't understand this card. I thought it was a misprint. It seems to me like it should read "+2 Hands" not "-2". Effectively, this card allows you to equip 4 one-handed items or 2 two-handed items, right?

snarky 02-09-2011 11:26 AM

Re: Coat of Arms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevBob (Post 1096870)
Of course, all you get from the theft is the Coat; nothing it's carrying comes along for the ride. I'm sure you already knew that, but just to cover all the bases...

Except if the person is carrying anything in addition to their 2-handed BIG item, they have to immediately choose which items are no longer in use, as they no longer have 2 additional hands.

Andrew Hackard 02-09-2011 11:33 AM

Re: Coat of Arms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EpicJoe (Post 1120579)
Ok, I guess I'm slow, but I don't understand this card. I thought it was a misprint. It seems to me like it should read "+2 Hands" not "-2". Effectively, this card allows you to equip 4 one-handed items or 2 two-handed items, right?

Hi, EpicJoe. Welcome to the forums!

The effect of the Coat of Arms is to give you two extra Hands. Because Items that take Hands say "1 Hand" or "2 Hands" (or "3 Hands," in one particularly obnoxious case), the Items that give you extra Hands say "-1 Hand" and "-2 Hands." That way, if you add up all the numbers of Hands on the Item cards, you'll get the right answer.

Example: You're wearing the Coat of Arms (-2 Hands) and wielding the Three-Handed Sword (3 Hands). You are currently using -2 + 3 = 1 Hand, meaning you still have one Hand free.

Please let me know if this helped, or if I need to explain it more clearly.

Signboy 02-09-2011 11:36 AM

Re: Coat of Arms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EpicJoe (Post 1120579)
Ok, I guess I'm slow, but I don't understand this card. I thought it was a misprint. It seems to me like it should read "+2 Hands" not "-2". Effectively, this card allows you to equip 4 one-handed items or 2 two-handed items, right?

Item cards that use hands say "1 Hand" or "2 Hands" - so if an item gives you extra hands (such as the Coat of Arms or Two-Handed Sword) the "-2 Hands" indicates that these items have the opposite effect of items that use hands, and instead free up 1 or more hands.

That all made sense in my head, but now that I read it to myself, I'm not so sure.

pirat 04-27-2011 06:31 PM

Re: Coat of Arms
 
Hey All,

Quick noob question: Does the coat of arms allow you to carry items that normally you would not be able to carry? (eg. Unnatural Axe that only Warriors can use, or Bow with Ribbons that only Elves can use)

It doesn't specifically say that it can or cannot, and as the GM I've been allowing it to supersede class and race, but I just wanted to check in with some veterans of the game to see how they handle it as basically a cheat or not.

Thanks,
-pirat

snarky 04-27-2011 06:36 PM

Re: Coat of Arms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pirat (Post 1165094)
Does the coat of arms allow you to carry items that normally you would not be able to carry? (eg. Unnatural Axe that only Warriors can use, or Bow with Ribbons that only Elves can use)

It doesn't specifically say that it can or cannot, and as the GM I've been allowing it to supersede class and race, but I just wanted to check in with some veterans of the game to see how they handle it as basically a cheat or not.

No, it just gives you two extra hands to carry items that you are otherwise permitted to carry. In general, if a card doesn't say that it can do something (like function as a CHEAT), then it doesn't.

MunchkinMan 04-27-2011 08:41 PM

Re: Coat of Arms
 
There's a fairly important meta-rule that needs to be followed: If you imagine that a card can do something, and the card doesn't specifically cover that which you imagine, then it can't do what you imagine. The Coat of Arms is a perfect example: All it does is give you extra hands, but in no way does it work like a Cheat! card in any possible way. If it was intended to do that, it would say so.


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