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Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1066590)

But isn't that what you mean when you attend an althing?

What's an althing?

The institute is Alþingi (or Althingi for those of you with imperfect keyboards), and you go to þing.

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.

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Originally Posted by Þorkell (Post 1066953)

What's an althing?

The institute is Alþingi (or Althingi for those of you with imperfect keyboards), and you go to þing.

Wikipedia has it spelled Althing as well.

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.

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Originally Posted by Crakkerjakk (Post 1067003)

Wikipedia has it spelled Althing as well.

Obviously whoever wrote that had an imperfect keyboard.

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.

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Originally Posted by Icelander (Post 1066588)

I believe there are stats in Low-Tech for horns and that it was not unknown in real Bronze Age history.

It is ahistorical for Vikings, yes, but we are not the only culture in the world.

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Originally Posted by Bruno (Post 1066816)

Cultures have put horns and antlers on their helmets - bronze age Celts for one, various middle eastern societies for others, and I think the "Heroic" era Greeks got up to it every now and then. It's just the vikings and many other iron-age societies that didn't, possibly because they'd learned about the downsides.

Mr Male Fantasy Barbarian isn't a viking, though. He comes from the nebulous world of Fantasy Barbarians, and this particular one is clad in (some) bronze armor, so bronze age decorations on his helmet fit in.

I meant that since mighty thewed fantasy barbarians of that sort are ahistorical, you might as well give him horns that do something cool.

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I was aiming at All Low Tech Rules All The Time because the theme for the thread seemed to be Low Tech Loadouts specifically ;) That's also why he's wearing cloth foot armor instead of "Boots" from the Basic Set.

I'd think that Fantasy Tech is more directly compatible with Low-Tech, isn't it?

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.

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Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 1067091)

I'd think that Fantasy Tech is more directly compatible with Low-Tech, isn't it?

Fantasy Tech could be described like "Ethnic Badass Low-Tech".

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.

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Originally Posted by DanHoward (Post 1067121)

Fantasy Tech could be described like "Ethnic Badass Low-Tech".

-- on ice.

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.

Some classical armour...

Wealthy Hoplite

Corinthian Helmet - single-piece full helm of light bronze plate (DR 3). $3,900.00, 1.8 lbs.
Padded Cap - covers skull with padded cloth (DR 1*). $10.00, 1.2 lbs.
Muscled Corslet - covers chest with medium bronze plate (DR 6). $7,500.00, 15 lbs.
Pteruges - cover abdomen and shoulders with light layered leather (DR 2*). $42.00, 5.3 lbs.
Greaves - cover shins and knees with light bronze plate (DR 3). $2,200.00, 4.4 lbs.

TOTAL: $13,652.00, 27.7 lbs.

Poorer Hoplite

Chalcidian Helmet - light bronze plate (DR 3) pot helm, with nasal and cheek guards, plus crest. $940.00, 2.8 lbs.
Padded Cap - covers skull with padded cloth (DR 1*). $10.00, 1.2 lbs.
Linothorax - covers torso with medium layered cloth (DR 3). $350.00, 20 lbs.

TOTAL: $1,200.00, 24 lbs.

Persian Infantryman

Felt Cap - covers skull with padded cloth (DR 1*). $10.00, 1.2 lbs.
Scale Corslet - covers torso in light scale (DR 3). $320.00. 16 lbs.

TOTAL: $330.00, 17.2 lbs.

Persian Heavy Cavalryman

Helmet - light bronze plate (DR 3) pot helm with cheek guards, plus crest. $900.00, 2.8 lbs.
Padded Cap - covers skull with padded cloth (DR 1*). $10.00, 1.2 lbs.
Scale Coreslet - covers chest in medium bronze scale (DR 4). $1,650.00, 21 lbs.
Pteruges - covers abdomen with light layered leather (DR 2*). $30.00, 3.8 lbs.
Leg Guards - cover legs with light bronze scale (DR 3). $1,280.00, 16 lbs.
Bracer - covers left forearm with light layered leather (DR 2*). $15.00, 1.9 lbs.

TOTAL: $3,885.00, 46.7 lbs.

Early Roman Legionary

Montefortino Helmet - light bronze plate (DR 3) pot helm with cheek guards, plus crest. $900.00, 2.8 lbs.
Padded Cap - covers skull with padded cloth (DR 1*). $10.00, 1.2 lbs.
Lorica Hamata - covers torso with heavy mail (DR 5*/3*). $1,200.00, 18 lbs.

TOTAL: $2,110.00, 22 lbs.

Roman Cavalryman

Helmet - medium plate (DR 6) pot helm with cheek guards, plus crest. $570.00, 5.4 lbs.
Padded Cap - covers skull with padded cloth (DR 1*). $10.00, 1.2 lbs.
Lorica Squamata - covers chest with heavy scale (DR 5). $825.00, 30 lbs.
Pteruges - cover abdomen and shoulders with light layered leather (DR 2*). $42.00, 5.3 lbs.

TOTAL: $1,447.00, 41.9 lbs.

Late Roman Heavy Cavalryman (Clibanarii)

Helmet - light bronze plate (DR 3) bascinet with visor. $1,250.00, 2.5 lbs.
Padded Hood - padded cloth (DR 1*) coif. $15.00, 1.8 lbs.
Squamata - medium scale (DR 4) covering the torso. $550.00, 28 lbs.
Hamata - fine mail (DR 4*/2*) covering the shoulders, elbows, hands, knees and feet. $360.00, 6 lbs.
Segmenta - medium segmented plate (DR 4) covering the upper arms, forearms, thighs and shins. $1,170.00, 31.2 lbs.

TOTAL: $3,345.00, 69.5 lbs.

A jazerant was the most common form of concealed armour. It consisted of a mail shirt sandwiched between layers of light padding. Low-Tech mail stats already include the light padding so all that is needed is the clothing and the concealment mods.

A Fine Mail vest covers the torso, has DR 4/2*, costs $900 and weighs 15 lbs. Long sleeves are half this or $450, 7.5 lbs. Total = $1350, 22.5 lbs. Ordinary clothing for a Status 1 character is 20% CoL or $240. The errata says that Ordinary Clothing should weigh 4 lbs. That's 2.4 lbs for a long-sleeved shirt and 1.6 lbs for long pants. When combined into a jazerant the Combination Gadget rules (p. 14) say that the shirt only weighs 80% or 1.92 lbs. Total 22.5 + 1.92 = 24.42 lbs. Same with cost: $1350 + (0.8 x $240) = $1542.
LT p. 102 says that fine mail's Holdout penalty is normally DR/3 which rounds up to -2. If you want to remove the -2 Holdout penalty then it costs 3 x $1542 or $4,626.

Jazerant (Status 1) with long sleeves: DR 4/2*, $4,626, 24.4 lbs. No Holdout penalty.

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.

What would be cool is a load out of pretty well as close of replacement to the Basic Set's equipment list as can be made.

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.

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Originally Posted by Stripe (Post 1068985)

What would be cool is a load out of pretty well as close of replacement to the Basic Set's equipment list as can be made.

What would you match it by besides type: DR, weight or cost?