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demonsbane 10-21-2010 12:20 PM

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.
 
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Originally Posted by Bruno (Post 1065299)
This kind of loadout won't appear in a "Companion" - they're either gameworld specific, or culture/era specific. This is one of the reasons why more like this didn't appear in Low Tech (...)

Yes. Some loadouts like these would be a great thing to have in sourcebooks like the upcoming GURPS Crusades.

Bruno 10-21-2010 01:24 PM

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.
 
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Originally Posted by Perfect Organism (Post 1066146)
Here's a loadout which isn't historically accurate at all...

Fantasy Female Fighter


You've inspired me.

Fantasy Male Barbarian

Impossibly Protective* Fur Vest (treat as Medium Leather, torso); $100, 12 lbs. DR 2*, 1* vs imp.
One Modest** Medium Bronze Plate Pauldron (Right or Left shoulder only); $125, 1 lb. DR 6
Light Bronze Plate Armbands (protecting the upper arms); $400, 0.8 lbs. DR 3
Medium Hardened Leather Bracers (protecting the forarms); $31.25, 3.75 lbs. DR 2
Fine Mail† Speedo (provides general modesty, but protects Front Groin only); $22.5, 0.375 lbs. DR 4F*, 2F* vs crushing.
Light Bronze Plate Greaves (Front Shins only); $1000, 2 lbs. DR 3F
Cloth Wrap Boots With Optional Fur Trim (Padded Cloth, Feet and Shins), $30, 3.6 lbs. DR 1*

Total is 25.525 lbs

Helmet (including padding) is $210, 2.8 lbs, DR 4
Horny Helmet (including padding) is $230, 3.8 lbs, DR 4, and falls under the Plumes and Crests rule from Low Tech p 113.

* Piled furs should be light leather, basically just winter clothing. Assume the fur of D&D style dire bears or the like, which if treated like proper leather would be Heavy Leather instead of Medium Fur.

** Modest in design. This is a simple cap over the shoulder, albeit a heavily constructed one, not the architectural wonders you get in World of Warcraft. For the amazingly out-of-control plate pauldrons in Warcraft, go nuts with styling and design options, and make it out of the heaviest plate you can talk your GM into. Then enchant it until it's radioactive.

† Evil Barbarian version replaces Fine Mail with a Spiked Light Plate codpiece.

sir_pudding 10-21-2010 02:49 PM

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.
 
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Originally Posted by Bruno (Post 1066336)
Horny Helmet (including padding) is $230, 3.8 lbs, DR 4, and falls under the Plumes and Crests rule from Low Tech p 113.

Isn't this better done with the options from Fantasy Tech? It's ahistorical anyway.

Crakkerjakk 10-21-2010 03:40 PM

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.
 
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Originally Posted by Gurps Fan (Post 1066285)
$3,326.5625, 42.5375 lbs. (I couldn't find how I should round up or down a fractional cost and weight.)

Man, four sig figs after the decimal place is probably a bit much. Call it $3,326.56 and 42.54 lbs. Or heck, $3,325 and 42.5 lbs.

sir_pudding 10-21-2010 03:44 PM

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.
 
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Originally Posted by Crakkerjakk (Post 1066425)
Or heck, $3,325 and 42.5 lbs.

This. GURPS doesn't actually much care about change or less than 1/2 lbs.

Gurps Fan 10-21-2010 08:28 PM

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.
 
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Originally Posted by Crakkerjakk (Post 1066425)
Man, four sig figs after the decimal place is probably a bit much.

I agree. Eight digits for cost and six for mass are clearly excessive -- it's more like precision science than gaming! However, unfortunately, we don't have rules on how we should round fractional weights and costs. Just like p. B9 (the Rounding section), there should have been short guidelines about rounding numbers somewhere in Low-Tech.

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Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 1066426)
GURPS doesn't actually much care about change or less than 1/2 lbs.

Actually, GURPS does care. Even Basic Set has the 0.25-lb dagger, 2.1-lb pistol, 0.05-lb sling bullets, etc.

Icelander 10-21-2010 09:26 PM

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.
 
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Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 1066384)
Isn't this better done with the options from Fantasy Tech? It's ahistorical anyway.

I believe there are stats in Low-Tech for horns and that it was not unknown in real Bronze Age history.

It is ahistorical for Vikings, yes, but we are not the only culture in the world.

Flyndaran 10-21-2010 09:29 PM

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.
 
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Originally Posted by Icelander (Post 1066588)
I believe there are stats in Low-Tech for horns and that it was not unknown in real Bronze Age history.

It is ahistorical for Vikings, yes, but we are not the only culture in the world.

But isn't that what you mean when you attend an althing?

GodlessRose 10-22-2010 06:17 AM

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.
 
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Originally Posted by Bruno (Post 1066336)
Fantasy Male Barbarian

I'm looking for the 'Like' button.

Bruno 10-22-2010 08:50 AM

Re: Low-Tech Armour Loadouts.
 
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Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 1066384)
Isn't this better done with the options from Fantasy Tech? It's ahistorical anyway.

Cultures have put horns and antlers on their helmets - bronze age Celts for one, various middle eastern societies for others, and I think the "Heroic" era Greeks got up to it every now and then. It's just the vikings and many other iron-age societies that didn't, possibly because they'd learned about the downsides.

Mr Male Fantasy Barbarian isn't a viking, though. He comes from the nebulous world of Fantasy Barbarians, and this particular one is clad in (some) bronze armor, so bronze age decorations on his helmet fit in.

I was aiming at All Low Tech Rules All The Time because the theme for the thread seemed to be Low Tech Loadouts specifically ;) That's also why he's wearing cloth foot armor instead of "Boots" from the Basic Set.


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