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Boberama 09-23-2010 04:07 AM

Difference between Greatsword/Thrusting Greatsword
 
What's the difference? The same goes for all the other types of swords. I don't know of any sword that would do a ton more damage from a succesful thrust.

What's the difference between these?

Ulzgoroth 09-23-2010 04:16 AM

Re: Difference between Greatsword/Thrusting Greatsword
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boberama (Post 1052429)
What's the difference? The same goes for all the other types of swords. I don't know of any sword that would do a ton more damage from a succesful thrust.

What's the difference between these?

The Thrusting Broadsword, Thrusting Bastard Sword, and Thrusting Greatsword have points. The 'normal' Broadsword, Bastard Sword, and Greatsword do not. Stabbing people works a lot better when you're not doing it with a blunt sword-tip.

Michele 09-23-2010 04:33 AM

Re: Difference between Greatsword/Thrusting Greatsword
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boberama (Post 1052429)
What's the difference? The same goes for all the other types of swords. I don't know of any sword that would do a ton more damage from a succesful thrust.

What's the difference between these?

The one mentioned by Ulzgoroth. If this of some help, try imagining the difference between being hit by a sports foil, with its blunt tip, and being skewered by a sharp-pointed smallsword. I gave fencing a try when I was a boy, and I remember that if I was hit by a good lunge, I could very well feel that blunt tip's impact, even through the padding.

Pomphis 09-23-2010 05:08 AM

Re: Difference between Greatsword/Thrusting Greatsword
 
And from another angle: whether you do Impaling or crushing damage when you thrust.

Gudiomen 09-23-2010 05:23 AM

Re: Difference between Greatsword/Thrusting Greatsword
 
Another visual aid...

Imagine being hit on the chest by a staff, with a blunt, flat tip.

Now imagine being hit by a sharpened staff, or a spear.

A lot more damage, no?

Gurps Fan 09-23-2010 05:39 AM

Re: Difference between Greatsword/Thrusting Greatsword
 
This is a non-"Thrusting" sword.

This is a "Thrusting" sword.

Dangerious P. Cats 09-23-2010 09:27 AM

Re: Difference between Greatsword/Thrusting Greatsword
 
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Originally Posted by Gurps Fan (Post 1052449)
This is a non-"Thrusting" sword.

This is a "Thrusting" sword.

I'm sorry to be an ass but one is a blunt fencing version of the other and both are modled after swords with sharp thrusting points, it's just that one is designed to not go through people when it thrusts them. I'm not sure what consistutes a non-thrusting sword in GURPS terms, are there any historical examples?

Fred Brackin 09-23-2010 09:37 AM

Re: Difference between Greatsword/Thrusting Greatsword
 
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Originally Posted by Dangerious P. Cats (Post 1052496)
I'm not sure what consistutes a non-thrusting sword in GURPS terms, are there any historical examples?

There is sports equipment like the Mensurshlager.....

http://hoeglund.org/vapen/sablar/Mensur1921.htm

..... but I have never seen a modern photograph of a weapon of war that could have been used to Thrust but was more biunt that a woman's stilletto heel.

If the Gurps "normal" broadswords etc. even existed at all they were very rare historically compared to the Thrusting models.

Some swords are virtually unable to Thrust and some are more or less pointed than others but actually blunt-tipped? I haven't seen it.

Grouchy Chris 09-23-2010 09:54 AM

Re: Difference between Greatsword/Thrusting Greatsword
 
I don't know much about swords, but to me, these swords look like they aren't nearly as good for thrusting as these are.

Fred Brackin 09-23-2010 09:58 AM

Re: Difference between Greatsword/Thrusting Greatsword
 
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Originally Posted by Grouchy Chris (Post 1052507)
I don't know much about swords, but to me, these swords look like they aren't nearly as good for thrusting as these are.

<shrug> Yes, some are pointier than others, but I've never seen one that was actually blunt like a pool cue and _that_ is basically the standard for Thrust/Crush.


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