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redpikemen 09-17-2010 06:35 PM

Supers: Fright and Powers
 
To Preface: I am starting a supers game soon, and I've been helping the players with their characters.

Questions:

1.) One character is looking for "Venom" or "Carnage" type abilities that cause fright checks in others who view them in use. I have a few ideas on how to game this, but I'm really interested in seeing what all of you come up with.

2.) I had read about a "Fear Perk" in the forums somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it in my books. Does anyone know anything about this perk, or have suggestions on how to create (if its possible) a balanced perk that deals with fear?

Thank you for your input!

sir_pudding 09-17-2010 06:37 PM

Re: Supers: Fright and Powers
 
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Originally Posted by redpikemen (Post 1050113)
1.) One character is looking for "Venom" or "Carnage" type abilities that cause fright checks in others who view them in use. I have a few ideas on how to game this, but I'm really interested in seeing what all of you come up with.

Isn't this simply the Terror advantage? What do you want it do that Terror doesn't already?
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2.) I had read about a "Fear Perk" in the forums somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it in my books. Does anyone know anything about this perk, or have suggestions on how to create (if its possible) a balanced perk that deals with fear?
Do you mean the Rule of 15 perk (that raises the cap on Fright Checks) or something else? That Perk is in Power Ups 2.

redpikemen 09-17-2010 07:22 PM

Re: Supers: Fright and Powers
 
He wants the fear check to be a side-effect of the normal power. So, if he creates an Innate Attack tendril, it should also create a fear check in any who view the attack.

My initial thoughts were linking Terror to the Innate Attack advantage to produce the effect he is looking for. I was just curious if any other point crunch guru's had better (cheaper) ways of producing the effect.

I'm going to guess that the fear perk I heard about is the Rule of 15 one.

Thanks!

sir_pudding 09-17-2010 07:24 PM

Re: Supers: Fright and Powers
 
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Originally Posted by redpikemen (Post 1050145)
He wants the fear check to be a side-effect of the normal power. So, if he creates an Innate Attack tendril, it should also create a fear check in any who view the attack.

Terror is normally always on, so an Accessibility should work.

SuedodeuS 09-17-2010 07:32 PM

Re: Supers: Fright and Powers
 
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Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 1050146)
Terror is normally always on, so an Accessibility should work.

Of course, "only when using attack X" isn't a huge limitation on something like this, so I'd probably eyeball it at around -10%.

Captain-Captain 09-17-2010 09:52 PM

Re: Supers: Fright and Powers
 
The thing of it is, Terror, by default works on those who see (or hear) the Terrorizing effect. That can be humongous in area effect, noting DF's observatin that drums can be heard for miles. If King Kong's being seen triggered a Fright Check, Kong on the Empire State Building is scaring folks in New Jersey!

vitruvian 09-17-2010 10:23 PM

Re: Supers: Fright and Powers
 
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Originally Posted by Captain-Captain (Post 1050224)
The thing of it is, Terror, by default works on those who see (or hear) the Terrorizing effect. That can be humongous in area effect, noting DF's observatin that drums can be heard for miles. If King Kong's being seen triggered a Fright Check, Kong on the Empire State Building is scaring folks in New Jersey!

I think you have to see (or hear) it clearly enough to know that it's terrifying, though. Folks in New Jersey might be able to see that there's a shape on the side of the Empire State, but not what it is or that it's not just a big balloon being hauled up the side.

And once you were close enough to see that something that huge was climbing up the skyscraper under its own power, I can well believe that many would find it quite terrifying at that point!

Captain-Captain 09-17-2010 10:58 PM

Re: Supers: Fright and Powers
 
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Originally Posted by vitruvian (Post 1050240)
I think you have to see (or hear) it clearly enough to know that it's terrifying, though. Folks in New Jersey might be able to see that there's a shape on the side of the Empire State, but not what it is or that it's not just a big balloon being hauled up the side.

And once you were close enough to see that something that huge was climbing up the skyscraper under its own power, I can well believe that many would find it quite terrifying at that point!

The point being: Trying to buy an affliction with that sort of radius is absolutely cost ineffective.

It's rather obviously a broken trait at extreme ends, something the OP may want to worry about.

redpikemen 09-18-2010 01:16 AM

Re: Supers: Fright and Powers
 
Good point - Terror as affixed to a power like that could be a game breaker.

I've got the player to settle on a Temporary Disadvantage effect to make him Horrific (-5 or -6 to reactions) when he's seen using his ability. He seems pretty happy with that.

Here are the stats we've come up with for the Tendril he wants to use as his base attack. I would really appreciate criticism regarding the way its statted - I want to make sure it's legal (or legal enough.)

TENDRIL: 29 Points (Extra Arm, Base 10 Pts)

Enhancements: 370%

Extra-Flexible +50%
Long 3 (SM+3) +300%
Switchable +10% (Can "retract" arm.)
Maximum Size Only +0% (Arm grows to max instantly; stays at max until retracted.)
Selective +10%

Limitations: -80%
No Fine Manipulators -30%
Biological -10%
Temporary Disadvantage: Horrific -25%
Accessibility: Grows from right arm only, -15% (Not a True "Extra Arm" yet.)

And here is the Innate Attack he's looking to use as a weapon on the end of the tendril. Now that I look at it again, it should probably have a 20% Link on it. Thoughts, opinions, help? Thanks!

IMPALING TENDRIL ATTACK: +2d Impaling 18 Points (Base 16)

Enhancements: +100%
ST Based +100%

Limitations: -80% (Total -85%)
Biological -10% (1 FP to form the probe)
Melee, Reach 1-3, -15%
Only When Using Tendril, -60%)

vitruvian 09-18-2010 09:24 AM

Re: Supers: Fright and Powers
 
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Originally Posted by redpikemen (Post 1050291)
Good point - Terror as affixed to a power like that could be a game breaker.

No more so than just taking Terror normally, either Switchable or not.

In fact, the one issue with taking it attached to another ability is that you should probably take it with Switchable if the other ability is voluntary in use, otherwise it's a way of getting around buying the enhancement.


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