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Tone Deafness
Leveled Quirk. Each level gives a -1 modifier to musical ability rolls.

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Head in the Clouds: has a hard time concentrating on the outside world. Good for a poet, cleric, scholar, or to some degree an inventor or gadgeeteer. Perhaps incompatible with Common Sense or Danger Sense.

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Originally Posted by jason taylor (Post 1035184)

Different from Dreamer, how?

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Originally Posted by ciaran_skye (Post 1033231)

"There are times when I am happy, and there are times when I am wearing pants." - Steve Griffith

I love highly creative, very descriptive Quirks.

...Talks very very quickly when excited. - When excited - from combat or "Oh boy new shiny!" - get a -1 on skill rolls involving speaking.

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Heavy Menses - Character has especially painful and messy menstrual periods. The character takes -1 on most activities

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Easily Seduced - Has a -2 to Will rolls to resist seduction attempts.

Personally, I never recommend or take Quirks that have such substantial and specific drawbacks.

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Falstaffian - Acts brave and boasts, but runs away from a fight. Think about Sir John Falstaff from Henry IV Part I and II and Merry Wives of Windsor.

Thinks member of the First Church of Tyr (Non-reformed) are from an "Evil Religion". - The character is a Cleric of the First Church of Try (Reformed). Live in a small town in the right parts of the United States and it makes perfect sense.

These would seem to be more-than-quirk level variations of existing disadvantages.

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Is unaware of her Appearance - Character is Beautiful, but doesn't exploit it nor understand why she consistently get good reactions and extra attention. Out of genre, but like the cliche 80s teen/college movie nerd girl who is a knockout and gets tons of attention, but can't understand why.

Very handicapping for a Quirk, in that it effectively puts a 'not deliberately' limitation on a 12 or more point character trait, for only -1 in return.

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Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 1035188)

Different from Dreamer, how?

The fact that I didn't know Dreamer existed.

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Originally Posted by Figleaf23 (Post 1035248)

Personally, I never recommend or take Quirks that have such substantial and specific drawbacks.

They're substantial and specific, but very very specific. To me they're as much and as specific of a Disadvantage as many published Perks are Advantage.

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These would seem to be more-than-quirk level variations of existing disadvantages.

If you've watched the plays I've mentioned then you'll understand that Fallstaffian isn't much more than a Quirk. As for the other, you're probably right assuming other Disadvantages make it worse (like an Intolerance).

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Very handicapping for a Quirk, in that it effectively puts a 'not deliberately' limitation on a 12 or more point character trait, for only -1 in return.

It doesn't say she doesn't get every other benefit from it, just that she doesn't specifically set out to do it.

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Originally Posted by vicky_molokh (Post 1035033)

Actually it does. It is not the same as 'I do not have reason to believe god(s) exist'.

Under my epistemological views, "I do not have reason to believe god(s) exist" automatically entails "I believe there are no gods" as a consequence. Or more precisely, under my standards of certainty, "I do not have reason to believe the probability of god(s) existing is greater than infinitesimally low" is perfectly synonymous with "I believe there are no gods".

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Originally Posted by ehrbar (Post 1035432)

I disagree, saying "I do not have a reason to believe god(s) exist" does not mean that the statement "I therefore do not believe any god(s) exist" automatically follows. You could follow the statement "I do not have a reason to believe god(s) exist" with "I also do not have any reason to believe god(s) don't exist." The statement "I do not have a reason to believe god(s) exist" is valid for both atheists and agnostics. The difference is the follow-up to that statement.

Atheists follow the statement with, "I therefore do not believe any god(s) exist." Agnostics follow the statement with, "I do not have a reason to believe god(s) don't exist." That is the fundamental difference in the viewpoints. Atheists say, you cannot prove that god(s) exist, therefore god(s) do not exist. Agnostics say, you cannot prove that god(s) exist, you also cannot prove that god(s) do not exist.

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Originally Posted by jason taylor (Post 1035266)

The fact that I didn't know Dreamer existed.

Basic page 164.

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I agree that atheism and agnosticism are different, but the discussion is off-topic and could potentially become an argument, so could it please go off into a separate thread?