Re: Psionic Powers: Brute Force vs Will
 

I would make it a perk to use it, just like the Extra Option perk from GURPS Power-Ups 2: Perks:


Psychic Proficiency†
You can with some effort put extra focus and concentration into a psi skill to get a one-time bonus to your success roll. This functions much like extra effort except there is no inherent risk of failure (GURPS Psionic Powers pp. 6-7) since you are making a attempt to gain better control rather than more power. It costs 1 FP per +1 to the attempted skill (to a maximum of +4 or your level of psi talent, whichever is greater). This can only be used for psi powers which have a psi skill (including optional ones). You must specialize by power, for example Psychic Proficiency (ESP) and Psychic Proficiency (Telepathy) are two different perks.

Ghostdancer

Re: Psionic Powers: Brute Force vs Will
 

Reducing their defense roll by 1 is close to adding 1 to your attack roll, so why not add Reliable with costs fatigue using the rules for variable fatigue costs from powers page 101:

Reliable +10 (Costs Fatigue 11 -55%) +22.5%; for every 2 fatigue you spend, add one level of reliable to your ability.

Re: Psionic Powers: Brute Force vs Will
 

I think Edges is using the Psionic Powers framework, and if he is Reliable is basically not used on powers except for removing inherent penalties.

Neat idea though.

Ghostdancer

Re: Psionic Powers: Brute Force vs Will
 

That's what I had settled up too.

Great minds... : )

Thanks for all the help.

Re: Psionic Powers: Brute Force vs Will
 

Glad I could d00d ^_^

Ghostdancer

Re: Psionic Powers: Brute Force vs Will
 

Because it's completely inappropriate for classic psionic abilities.

It's important to remember that the stunts from Chapter 4 of GURPS Powers are not intended to be freely available for every power! The GM is supposed to pick and choose a balanced mix of positive and negative features which fit the concept of the source behind the power.

In other words, just because it's in GURPS Powers doesn't mean that every power can (or should be able to) use it!

Re: Psionic Powers: Brute Force vs Will
 

Really? Not to my mind. (EDIT: Maybe you're joking and I'm being dense.)

But oh well. I'm not bagging on your work. It's a masterpiece.

Yes of course. I never forgot that for a moment.

I think I'll include it for my game. There are things that higher skill can do that higher power level can't that in my mind are staples of classic psionic extra effort. I'm fine with modeling the "penalty for trying too hard" by the FP cost and the steeper critical failure consequences. And I'll limit who can use the option by requiring a perk.

Thanks for the help.

Re: Psionic Powers: Brute Force vs Will
 

Yep.

Then by all means, add it to your game. I was merely answering your question as to why I didn't include it. :)

Re: Psionic Powers: Brute Force vs Will
 

That's cool. I guess we just interpret things a little differently.

Tell me, how would you model a psi who can penetrate the mind of a high Will target by trying really hard?

Re: Psionic Powers: Brute Force vs Will
 

Affliction (Lower IQ, Permanent)