munchkins gual
 

what is munchkins gual exacally i really dont understand

Re: munchkins gual
 

GUAL is an "upgrade kit." If you don't want to rebuy your whole Munchkin collection -- and I wouldn't blame anyone for feeling that way! -- this set will give you replacements for the cards where the writing most significantly changed. (Quite a few cards changed in every expansion in ways that you can easily fix with a Sharpie; we didn't include those.) It also has a sheet summarizing the biggest rule changes (or clarifications).

We don't plan to keep this set in print forever -- in fact, right now we expect to sell through the first print run and that will be that. If demand turns out to be a lot higher than we expect, well, we can revisit that decision.

For information: just over half the cards in GUAL are from the fantasy sets, so that should give you an idea of how few cards really significantly changed in the non-fantasy Munchkins.

Re: munchkins gual
 

Okay, I possibly (probably) misunderstood the original post in the Illuminator. Does the GUAL Upgrade Kit cover only fantasy Munchkin, or are there cards to cover Star, Super, Impossible, et al?

Re: munchkins gual
 

Half the cards in GUAL from Fantasy, other half from Star, Super, etc...

Andrew, any chances we get a list of cards with small changes, so we can make the changes ourselves?

Re: munchkins gual
 

The majority of those changes fall into a couple of categories:

(a) Positive Monster Enhancers: change "+N to Level of Monster" to "+N to Monster." (We've been stealthily doing this already in a couple of places. We so sneaky!)

(b) Negative Monster Enhancers: in addition to removing "Level of," as above, also remove "(Minimum Level 1)" -- Level never changes, and combat strength can be negative.

(c) Wandering Monster (and similar cards): change "add their levels" to "add their combat strengths."

(d) Too many cards to name: clarify Level, capital L, which is the number on the monster's card or the munchkin's Level Counter; level, little l, which is one of the units that make up the Level; and combat strength, which is the total of your Level and all bonuses or penalties.

I'm very sure there are other small (or at least easy-to-implement) changes that aren't in GUAL that I've forgotten to list here. We'll try to keep a running tally.

Re: munchkins gual
 

Show me your knees.... :9

See ya

Re: munchkins gual
 

Such as..?

Re: munchkins gual
 

I wasn't trying to be opaque there. You start at Level 1. If you reach Level 6 (capital L), you have gained five levels (lowercase l).

Re: munchkins gual
 

Oh, I see now. Thanks (again)!

Re: munchkins gual
 

I don't understand this. Why aren't the fantasy cards too in color? I want that "fan-favorite" card (KOA) in color too!

Maybe this card returns ALSO in the 19th printing with a new (More balanced) mechanic?

See ya

Re: munchkins gual
 

Because GUAL is designed to replace cards in existing sets. The existing fantasy sets are duotone, not color.

Re: munchkins gual
 

The cards from Fantasy are going to be colored, from 19th printing on. Including a new version of the KoA, full-color (but less powerful).

Also some cards are going to get different text (some Classes, Races, Super Munchkin, ie) in the 19th colored version, the rules are going to get some changes, the boxes will come with a custom dice. This is happening for ALL Munchkin sets.

There is where GUAL comes in.

GUAL is a set for people who already own all (or most of) the Munchkin sets and don't plan to buy the new ones. So SJGames is giving them the chance to get the new version of rules and cards without having to buy every set again. That's why the fantasy cards in GUAL are not colored.

Re: munchkins gual
 

Does anyone know if the GUAL Pack will come with the special die mentioned with the new color printing? (Hope, hope, hope, wish, wish, wish, fingers crossed, toes crossed, eyes crossed, getting headache ...)

Re: munchkins gual
 

A die is not included in the GUAL tuckbox.

The dice will be available separately.

http://www.worldofmunchkin.com/d6/

Re: munchkins gual
 

will it be possible for future fantasy munchkin expansion to be in duo tone for a single printing and then printing 2 and on will come in full color

Re: munchkins gual
 

Andrew, thank you for making this GUAL release. I just recently finished purchasing the full fantasy set and did not look forward to having to purchase them all over again.

Re: munchkins gual
 

Not an option we're considering. All future Munchkin cards (and reprints) are planned as full color cards from now on.

Re: munchkins gual
 

Perfect explanation :)

I just want the return of KoA in full-color. It's a great idea coming back but with a more balanced system.

See ya

Re: munchkins gual
 

And you'll get it, starting with the 19th printing.

Re: munchkins gual
 

Thanks, Phil. This is good to know. More money out of my pocket, but good to know ;)

Re: munchkins gual
 

The Munchkin Dice expansion will be reprinted too in color in 2010?

See ya

Re: munchkins gual
 

Yes, according to Andrew in the chat.

Re: munchkins gual
 

I suspect there is a misunderstanding here. We have not planned a reprint of the Munchkin Dice product for 2010.

Re: munchkins gual
 

If I said that, then I badly misspoke. I thought I had said that when we reprint Munchkin Dice, it will have color cards, but I did not commit to a specific reprint date (because we don't yet have one).

Re: munchkins gual
 

Yes, that's probably it. I don't recall seeing a date of reprint for the Munchkin Dice at all, so I'm to blame here. But I do recall you saying that the Dice will have colored cards when they are re-released =)

Re: munchkins gual
 

Maybe you had posted this somewhere else but I haven't been able to find the answer and when I searched on warehouse web site I couldnt find the GUAL pack anywhere to buy so was wondering if you sold through the first set and stopped selling them or have I just over looked it?

Re: munchkins gual
 

It will be released in September or so. It's not available yet. =)
http://www.worldofmunchkin.com/gual/

Re: munchkins gual
 

Why is there a cardlist for other Munchkin expansions, but not GUAL? Will one be appearing on the GUAL product page soon? I really want to take my Munchkin sets "up a level" but I'm hesitant to buy GUAL without making sure first that the affected cards aren't just ones I rarely use anyway

Re: munchkins gual
 

For most sets, the only cards that are in GUAL are Super Munchkin and Cheat!. Fantasy sets tend to have more cards that were replaced, and Mate-like cards were replaced in core sets up through Super Munchkin.

Re: munchkins gual
 

Okay, cool. The Fantasy sets are the ones I'm mainly concerned about, though. It's my favorite, and it seems like there will be more extensive changes made. I was wondering what those would be so I wanted to check the cardlist for GUAL. Will there not be one then?

Re: munchkins gual
 

Please tell me that Bug and Space Ranger from Clown Wars have had rewrites. They are by far the weakest race and class of any set in the history of Munchkin. Bug's ability is basically to get a better race card that is easier to do with the Go Up A Level discard rule (and only costs you one card instead of two). As for Space Ranger, being able to force another player to help can be a game winner, but compared to other forced help abilities, this one is too costly for early use and too absolute for end game battles. I like the idea of Bugs taking abilities from other races, but requiring a half breed to be able to keep using it's own abilities while benefiting from others is just too much work for a race that has no other abilities. I also feel that Space Rangers would be a more diverse class from the others if they could conscript other players followers instead of the players themselves. I realize that both of these changes would require almost complete rewrites for both of these cards, but I honestly feel nothing would be lost from introducing cards that players would have at least some sense of decision whether they wanted to choose them over another race or class. Yes I signed up for this forum just to make this request.

Re: munchkins gual
 

There will be one posted, but it's not at the top of our webmaster's list.

They have not. Perhaps this was an oversight on my part, but I don't recall thinking of them as all that weak.

Re: munchkins gual
 

I have a doubt!

Some cards (as the Super Munchkin card for example) comes in more than one set. The GUAL set have one of these cards or a number equal to what was in the sum of all expansions.

I do not know if I was clear. what I mean is:

A particular letter X is repeated in all expansions of Munchkin. Having a total of 10 copies of it. The GUAL set will bring one or 10 of this card?

Re: munchkins gual
 

Every Cheat! card from every standalone game and expansion will be replaced by the cards that come in Munchkin GUAL. The same can be said for every Super Munchkin card from every standalone game and expansion, as well as any other card which had a significant change that can't be easily overlooked (Cleric, Wizard, Halfling and Gnome are perfect examples). I'm fairly certain that almost every card will have the same art, but all will have the the correct backs and icons for the set that they came from. The cards for the original Munchkin and its expansions will be the familiar duo-tone parchment and brown, not full color. What you won't get is a new copy of every Monster Enhancer because the only difference is that the new ones say, "+X to Monster," instead of "+X to Level of Monster." You can either ignore "Level of" or cross it out with a permanent magic marker, so there's no need to have such cards in Munchkin GUAL, or it would be a huge set.

Re: munchkins gual
 

why did you replace cheat

Re: munchkins gual
 

The text has slightly changed, to help people understand the purpose of the card. It's much clearer, really

Re: munchkins gual
 

Because people would somehow assume that they could do crazy things like take a card out of the discards, take cards out of the deck, take cards from other players, even take a card from someone else's hands, use Cheat! with a Monster Enhancer to give themselves a bonus, or to give themselves an extra Race, or an extra copy of a Race to get double bonuses, or anything else their twisted little devious minds could come up with that had nothing to do with the actual, intended functionality of the Cheat! card. And, though I wrote up a nice little post here to cover all of that, we still had to rewrite the card so that people wouldn't think they could get away with all that garbage before finally making their way over here to find that post.

So, the card itself isn't going away, we are replacing it with a brand new, better than ever, rewritten version of the card.

Re: munchkins gual
 

Ok... Thanks :D