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roguebfl 02-28-2010 11:49 PM

Re: [DF] Why not have some pure "bad guy" races in DF?
 
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Originally Posted by Wraithe (Post 943306)
Will a "Good" character attempt to turn "Evil" characters to the "right" path? (I've always wanted to play a 12th level Jehovah's Witness)

It's kind fun, standing in the middle for night raid raging around you while you and the opposing cleric stand there polythising at each other. Great way to 'disable' the opposing cleric when you did not have any combat spells available.

cmdicely 02-28-2010 11:50 PM

Re: [DF] Why not have some pure "bad guy" races in DF?
 
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Originally Posted by RyanW (Post 943265)
The xenomorphs are a slightly different issue. To them we are resources to be used as needed. They aren't exactly evil, just their way of life is incompatible with our own.

Seeing people as "resources to be used as needed" seems to be a pretty precise definition of evil when it occurs in humans, after all.

trooper6 03-01-2010 12:01 AM

Re: [DF] Why not have some pure "bad guy" races in DF?
 
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Originally Posted by cmdicely (Post 943341)
Seeing people as "resources to be used as needed" seems to be a pretty precise definition of evil when it occurs in humans, after all.

We see the entire animal kingdom as resources to be used as needed. Are we evil?

Lonewulf 03-01-2010 12:03 AM

Re: [DF] Why not have some pure "bad guy" races in DF?
 
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Originally Posted by trooper6 (Post 943345)
We see the entire animal kingdom as resources to be used as needed. Are are evil?

Do we kill and eat sapient animals?

roguebfl 03-01-2010 12:06 AM

Re: [DF] Why not have some pure "bad guy" races in DF?
 
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Originally Posted by Lonewulf (Post 943347)
Do we kill and eat sapient animals?

Ever had Monkey Brains?

Lonewulf 03-01-2010 12:08 AM

Re: [DF] Why not have some pure "bad guy" races in DF?
 
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Originally Posted by roguebfl (Post 943349)
Ever had Monkey Brains?

No.

Evidence that monkeys are sapient, plz?

If they are sapient, then this causes one hell of an ethical issue we have to answer, don't we?

I have to wonder what will happen when we make First Contact with an alien race. You all seem content to kill or capture on sight if they aren't Homo.

roguebfl 03-01-2010 12:11 AM

Re: [DF] Why not have some pure "bad guy" races in DF?
 
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Originally Posted by Lonewulf (Post 943351)
No.

Evidence that monkeys are sapient, plz?

Give me the working definition of sapient

Lonewulf 03-01-2010 12:13 AM

Re: [DF] Why not have some pure "bad guy" races in DF?
 
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Originally Posted by roguebfl (Post 943353)
Give me the working definition of sapient

Since you answered with "Monkey Brains", why don't you give the one you were operating off of?

trooper6 03-01-2010 12:19 AM

Re: [DF] Why not have some pure "bad guy" races in DF?
 
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Originally Posted by Lonewulf (Post 943351)
No.

Evidence that monkeys are sapient, plz?

If they are sapient, then this causes one hell of an ethical issue we have to answer, don't we?

I have to wonder what will happen when we make First Contact with an alien race. You all seem content to kill or capture on sight if they aren't Homo.

Well there has been frequent discussion of dolphins, whales, gorillas having sapience/sentience/intelligence. And they are killed and sold for pieces and parts or eaten.

Here was an interesting little thing from io9 discussing some marine biologists who feel that dolphins should have equal rights.

http://io9.com/5443392/marine-biolog...e-equal-rights

Anyway, people still kill some dolphins, whales, gorillas, rhesus monkeys, chimpanzees for resources...and we don't think of ourselves as evil (well, some animal rights activist groups would probably consider those people evil...but human society as a whole doesn't). Heck, many wars amount to killing people for resources and we often don't consider killing soldiers within the confines of war evil.

Icelander 03-01-2010 12:22 AM

Re: [DF] Why not have some pure "bad guy" races in DF?
 
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Originally Posted by roguebfl (Post 943353)
Give me the working definition of sapient

Someone you can negotiate with.


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