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Andrew Hackard 11-01-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixel (Post 876853)
Combat means any combat, even if it is not yours.

Actually, I'd rule exactly the opposite. Something that can says it can be "except in combat" means when YOU are in combat.

But we may have ruled differently in the past; guess it'll require some discussion.

Nixel 11-01-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard (Post 876864)
Actually, I'd rule exactly the opposite. Something that can says it can be "except in combat" means when YOU are in combat.

But we may have ruled differently in the past; guess it'll require some discussion.

I was mostly thinking of the "You may not sell, trade, or steal items DURING a fight."

MunchkinMan 11-01-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixel (Post 876876)
I was mostly thinking of the "You may not sell, trade, or steal items DURING a fight."

Which means that while you are in combat, you may not sell, trade or steal Items (and, fortunately, not have Items stolen from you). Nothing prevents a Thief who is not in combat from stealing from another player who is not in combat. Nothing stops two players who are not in combat, even while a combat is going on, from trading with each other. . .

Kirt 11-01-2009 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Malinari (Post 876669)
TRANSMOGRIFICATION; At any time except during combat, you may take any of your cards off the table into your hand, as long as this does not cause you to exceed your maximum hand size.

I haven't played BITES, so this may be a naive question, but what is with the "as long as this does not cause you to exceed your maximum hand size" part of this card?

There is no maximum hand size, until the end of your turn / charity phase.

So unless you try to use transmogrification during the charity phase, that whole clause is pointless, no?

Or does the card want to mean as long "as this does not cause you to exceed the maximum hand size you would have during your charity phase"?

Malinari 11-02-2009 03:48 PM

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My interpretation was that you could not exceed the usual charity hand limit unless you have a card that modifies it. There is a power (powers were introduced instead of classes in Bites) that lets you keep an extra card in your hand.

That being said if one had the powers "Transmogrification" and "Malediction" could on essentially throw ones entire inventory at another player as combat minuses? Fill the hand using transmogrification, empty it using malediction, repeat til you have no more cards?

maxdemon76 11-02-2009 04:28 PM

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I'm pretty sure you can already do that. I don't think Malediction requires you to discard a card in your hand in order to power it.

-ScreenName- 11-02-2009 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MunchkinMan (Post 876903)
Nothing stops two players who are not in combat, even while a combat is going on, from trading with each other. . .

that seems kind of strange because if someone is in combat and then another player wants to help but doesn't have enough bonus to help, does that mean he is able to trade with someone else who is not in combat so that he has enough bonus?

-ScreenName- 11-02-2009 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by maxdemon76 (Post 877471)
I don't think Malediction requires you to discard a card in your hand in order to power it.

i think you're right.

MunchkinMan 11-02-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by -ScreenName- (Post 877549)
that seems kind of strange because if someone is in combat and then another player wants to help but doesn't have enough bonus to help, does that mean he is able to trade with someone else who is not in combat so that he has enough bonus?

  1. It's not strange, it's the rules as written and intended.
  2. You act as if trading is a one-sided act which does not permit other players to prevent it. If people don't want to trade with another player to allow him to help in a combat, they can say, "No."

-ScreenName- 11-04-2009 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MunchkinMan (Post 877592)
[*]You act as if trading is a one-sided act which does not permit other players to prevent it. If people don't want to trade with another player to allow him to help in a combat, they can say, "No."

i suppose, but stealing is one sided, and i'm not sure but i think there are cards that say not usable during your combat and that would be redundant if that was the case for anything that said not usable during combat.


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