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vicky_molokh 08-14-2009 05:41 AM

Making Custom - BIG but cheap - Crossbows . . .
 
Greetings, all!

What are the reasonable scaling guidelines for making bigger crossbows - solely for the purpose of increasing MinST, and thus also increasing the Maximum ST that can be set on the bow. Does doubling weight and cost fit for doubling MinST and decreasin Bulk by 2?

And how do I figure how much heavier can I make my ammunition without sacrificing too much range?

I'm trying to build a custom mini-ballista for one of the PCs in the Celestial Ocean.

Thanks in advance!

Agramer 08-14-2009 06:27 AM

Re: Making Custom - BIG but cheap - Crossbows . . .
 
Maybe base it on Scorpion (very strong man could use it as crossbow)

vicky_molokh 08-14-2009 06:39 AM

Re: Making Custom - BIG but cheap - Crossbows . . .
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Agramer (Post 834646)
Maybe base it on Scorpion (very strong man could use it as crossbow)

Actually, it's the other way around:

I don't want a full-on Scorpion, because the PC can't afford one, so asked for a 500-coin-worth version of a crossbow.

Besides, we don't need to keep it mobile. It's intended to be used with Artillery, or Gunner at most.

Agramer 08-14-2009 06:51 AM

Re: Making Custom - BIG but cheap - Crossbows . . .
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Molokh (Post 834651)
Actually, it's the other way around:

I don't want a full-on Scorpion, because the PC can't afford one, so asked for a 500-coin-worth version of a crossbow.

Besides, we don't need to keep it mobile. It's intended to be used with Artillery, or Gunner at most.


Custom made stuff is always more expensive from "of the shelf".

Make it low quality Scorpion = cuts price down.
Or small version of Scorpion(they come in variety of sizes,not just as single example in book)...cut down stats...
With Crossbow stats and Scorpion stats it shouldnt be 2 hard to gauge new stats/performance.

sir_pudding 08-14-2009 08:16 AM

Re: Making Custom - BIG but cheap - Crossbows . . .
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Molokh (Post 834651)
Besides, we don't need to keep it mobile. It's intended to be used with Artillery, or Gunner at most.

I think it would have to be Gunner for your purposes. Artillery is for indirect fire.

vicky_molokh 08-14-2009 09:36 AM

Re: Making Custom - BIG but cheap - Crossbows . . .
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 834676)
I think it would have to be Gunner for your purposes. Artillery is for indirect fire.

It's most likely that it will be used to fire over city walls (it'll be set up near one).

sir_pudding 08-14-2009 10:27 AM

Re: Making Custom - BIG but cheap - Crossbows . . .
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Molokh (Post 834708)
It's most likely that it will be used to fire over city walls (it'll be set up near one).

A single big crossbow firing unobserved indirect fire? Interesting.

vicky_molokh 08-14-2009 10:29 AM

Re: Making Custom - BIG but cheap - Crossbows . . .
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 834736)
A single big crossbow firing unobserved indirect fire? Interesting.

Not my idea.

Anyway, the ammo is gonna be incendiary. Which is still dubious, especially since it stands next to a battery of TL1+2 rockets . . .

NorphTehDwarf 08-14-2009 03:31 PM

Re: Making Custom - BIG but cheap - Crossbows . . .
 
The easiest solution would just be to give the weapon whatever ST you found appropriate (30, maybe?) and then calculated damage based on what a crossbow of that ST would do, and adjusted weight and cost to taste. Lowering Accuracy by a point or two might be a good idea, since bigger bows were probably built to looser tolerances.

It'd be a fair bet that the reload for a three- or four-person team would take around 20 seconds, doubling to 40 if they're missing a guy and tripling to 80 if there's only a single person to work the whole apparatus.

My hazy guess:

Big Honkin' Crossbow:
Damge: 4d imp, acc: 3 weight: lots Range: 600/750, shots: 1(20), cost: $600

Verjigorm 08-14-2009 11:19 PM

Re: Making Custom - BIG but cheap - Crossbows . . .
 
I offer two options: I go dig out Guns, Guns, Guns and stat one up, or I dig out GURPS: Vehicles and stat one up for you. Lemme know which one you'd like. I can probably have it for you by sunday at the earliest.

capnq 08-15-2009 12:44 AM

Re: Making Custom - BIG but cheap - Crossbows . . .
 
This reminded me of a PBS program called Leonardo's Dream Machines, where a team of engineers tried to build a 70-foot crossbow and a giant glider designed by Da Vinci to see if they could actually work.

(I can't find much of anything on their website about the show other than that link to buy the DVD.)


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