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rickert 09-01-2008 03:28 PM

ships booty question
 
I was playing Booty Sunday with someone who picked it up at GenCon. We had one question. If you have a cheat card, can you play a ship enhancer without a ship?

Thanks
Rick T.

Proto Persona 09-01-2008 03:59 PM

Re: ships booty question
 
This has been addressed fairly clearly before. A ship enhancer is just like an item enhancer and thus not an item, so you can't play a cheat card on it.

Malkavman 09-02-2008 06:06 AM

Re: ships booty question
 
It depends on whether it has a value on the card. Having not played Booty yet, I don't know if the ship enhancers have a value. If they do, they count as items, if not, then they don't. All of the item enhancers so far have not had a value, but things like steed and hireling enhancers do. I was playing just a few hours ago and had a hireling enhancer(Mean Medicine) cheated.

Cheese8242 09-02-2008 06:40 AM

Re: ships booty question
 
The ship enhancers do have a value on the card.

MunchkinMan 09-02-2008 07:26 AM

Re: ships booty question
 
Steed Enhancers, even if they have a Gold Piece value, indicate that they need to be placed with a Steed. Ship Enhancers and Ships, same thing. I'm not immediately seeing myself allowing it should someone try it on me. Needs more thought. . .

Andrew Hackard 09-02-2008 07:33 AM

Re: ships booty question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan
Steed Enhancers, even if they have a Gold Piece value, indicate that they need to be placed with a Steed. Ship Enhancers and Ships, same thing. I'm not immediately seeing myself allowing it should someone try it on me. Needs more thought. . .

This came up in the in-house playtests -- several times -- and I'm utterly astounded that it didn't get addressed in the rules, one way or the other, because we all asked Steve to make it explicit whether this was allowed.

FWIW, I'm with MunchkinMan in the "no, that's stupid" camp, but other people in the playtest argued that because ship enhancers have a GP value, they are legal to play with a Cheat card. I think this needs a formal ruling and probably a FAQ note, if not an erratum.

Cheese8242 09-02-2008 07:45 AM

Re: ships booty question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan
Steed Enhancers, even if they have a Gold Piece value, indicate that they need to be placed with a Steed. Ship Enhancers and Ships, same thing. I'm not immediately seeing myself allowing it should someone try it on me. Needs more thought. . .

I had been allowing people to cheat with ship enhancers, but I'll stop now.

But someone cheating a "Poop Deck" really is amusing.

MunchkinMan 09-02-2008 09:26 AM

Re: ships booty question
 
My playtest copy of the Booty rules say that the GP value is to be added to he Ship's value. The cards also seem to say "Ship Enhancer" on them, so that puts them in a different class of Item, too.

This is one of those cases where I'm trying to see what was intended or preferred and then figure out how to fix it so we can document it properly.

Cheese8242 09-02-2008 09:46 AM

Re: ships booty question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan
My playtest copy of the Booty rules say that the GP value is to be added to he Ship's value. The cards also seem to say "Ship Enhancer" on them, so that puts them in a different class of Item, too.

This is one of those cases where I'm trying to see what was intended or preferred and then figure out how to fix it so we can document it properly.

The rules in my copy say the same thing. And I see your point to them being a whole other class of item. I really don't know why I thought otherwise, but like I said I will change the ruling in future games.

Shadowere 09-03-2008 12:07 PM

Re: ships booty question
 
Let me ask this (for clarification purposes):

  • Can this card (ship enhancer) be placed on the table sideways, as an unused item?
  • Can this card (ship enhancer) be sold for levels, or traded?


Cheers!!


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