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vicky_molokh 07-21-2008 01:25 AM
Re: Perky
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gef
Controlled Disadvantage specifically excludes Berserk. So, how would you price a controlled berserk who never goes Berserk under normal conditions* except by his own will, still has to roll to snap out of it if he triggers it on purpose?

*Abnormal conditions would be those which require control rolls at penalty or reduce them by a step, in which case I;m fine with treating the "base" control roll as 15.

GEF
Take DR with Tough Skin and Temporary Disadvantage: Berserk. :)

Some stuff just has to be done the hard way.

Gef 07-21-2008 01:33 AM
Re: Perky
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Molokh
Take DR with Tough Skin and Temporary Disadvantage: Berserk. :)
Hmm, do the same with a level of Temperature Tolerance, and of course you'd need Switchable...and it's perk-priced with the bonus that while you're ragin', you don't feel the cold. And unlike DR, TT is not an exotic advantage.

GEF

vicky_molokh 07-21-2008 01:54 AM
Re: Perky
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gef
Hmm, do the same with a level of Temperature Tolerance, and of course you'd need Switchable...and it's perk-priced with the bonus that while you're ragin', you don't feel the cold. And unlike DR, TT is not an exotic advantage.

GEF
Well, sure. But I always thought that barbarianish DR is more appropriate. Remember that between Telegraphic Attacks of the enemy and the lack of Active Defenses, you WILL be hit. And I think that once you're in TD-taking territory, you're allowed X advantages anyway.

Lonewulf 07-21-2008 02:04 AM
Re: Perky
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Molokh
Well, sure. But I always thought that barbarianish DR is more appropriate. Remember that between Telegraphic Attacks of the enemy and the lack of Active Defenses, you WILL be hit. And I think that once you're in TD-taking territory, you're allowed X advantages anyway.
I think that there's no actual rules saying you aren't allowed X advantages. ;)

X advantages are just fine for fantasy and cyberpunk games anyways, depending on the explanations behind them and world assumptions. It's doubtful you'll see many "successful" berserkers in the real world, unless they have a high HP and high ST -- to be able to utterly destroy any enemy they strike and last longer, you see.

vicky_molokh 07-21-2008 02:10 AM
Re: Perky
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonewulf
I think that there's no actual rules saying you aren't allowed X advantages. ;)

X advantages are just fine for fantasy and cyberpunk games anyways, depending on the explanations behind them and world assumptions. It's doubtful you'll see many "successful" berserkers in the real world, unless they have a high HP and high ST -- to be able to utterly destroy any enemy they strike and last longer, you see.
True, the X mark is a note to GMs. It basically means that such traits require more levels of GM Permission than other traits.

Oh, and Berserker should probably cost -15 or even -20, as now we have Telegraphic Attacks which are essentially free bonuses against berserkers.

Highland_Piper 07-21-2008 04:44 AM
Re: Perky
 
I ordered mine yesterday. Now the long wait for e23 to get accept my paypal.

Can't wait to read it

*edit* Got mine. I'm certainly going to bestow some of these to the characters of my current campaign.

I'm thinking No Physical Damage page 11 for our "fighter", Accent page 12 for our "ranger", Patience of Job pg 13 for our "wizard", and finally Clothing Shticks Cloak for our flamboyant "thief"

Pip Boy 07-21-2008 11:12 AM
Re: Perky
 
Got mine as well.

The best thing is, strangely, that there's a lot of perks not included in this book. This means that ANOTHER ONE is expected, with another 22 pages of great stuff!

zorg 07-21-2008 11:21 AM
Re: Perky
 
>>Paypal payment confirmed, file downloaded, customer pleased.
>>...
>>Have rinsed, awaiting repeat.
>>...

Kromm 07-21-2008 12:59 PM
Re: Perky
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Molokh

Oh, and Berserker should probably cost -15 or even -20, as now we have Telegraphic Attacks which are essentially free bonuses against berserkers.
No, I'd say that now that we have Telegraphic Attack, Berserk is fairly priced. Before that, it was a way to get something close to Supernatural Durability for negative cost.

vicky_molokh 07-21-2008 01:57 PM
Re: Perky
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kromm
No, I'd say that now that we have Telegraphic Attack, Berserk is fairly priced. Before that, it was a way to get something close to Supernatural Durability for negative cost.
Well, so far I don't see people willing to buy Berserk (12) for [-15], even in low-tech. In high-tech, where a failed Active Defense usually means slow bleeding death, people don't even talk about it because it's no longer even a heroic death.

BTW, did I understand correctly that it is not possible to buy a Perk which grants switchable Berserk. If so, why? It's probably the prime candidate for those 1-pt Advantages bought just to be able to switch it and its Temporary Disadvantages back in the age when there were no switchable disadvantage perks.


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