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Pip Boy 07-17-2008 05:06 PM
Re: Passive Defense of 3rd edition
 
In 3e, the shield's PD sums to ALL active defenses rolls, but only from attacks incoming from the front and/or shield side hex. It must be WIELDED to give it's PD, not only CARRIED.

Ps: In 3e, isn't maximum PD at 6?

Gudiomen 07-17-2008 05:27 PM
Re: Passive Defense of 3rd edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pip Boy
Ps: In 3e, isn't maximum PD at 6?
I seem to remember so. Although some force-fields had PD8 were apparently an exception to the rule.

Bloody messy mechanic, good riddance.

Phaelen Bleux 07-17-2008 05:31 PM
Re: Passive Defense of 3rd edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha
Which is why PD went away for 4e, it was too silly to implement properly.
Anything gets silly when you go to the ends of a bell curve.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
If you had PD 3 from a large shield, and 3 from armor, for a total of 6, and your base dodge has been nerfed by encumbrance down to 4, you still could dodge things 50% of the time. With a base dodge of 6, or a PD of 6, you could dodge things about 13% of the time. Because of the bell curve, when you add the two together, the effect scaled wildly out of proportion.
Actually, you could only Dodge (that is, get completely out of the way) 20% of the time. 30% of the time things bounced off of you without penetrating. That's why it's PASSIVE defense. 50% of the time you were hit and hurt.

I have fought with sword and shield. The shield helps A LOT!!!

Kromm 07-17-2008 05:32 PM
Re: Passive Defense of 3rd edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pip Boy

In 3e, isn't maximum PD at 6?
A common but erroneous belief. The Passive Defense advantage from Supers was so limited, but total PD from all sources had no special limit. It's like the myth that Dodge in 3e couldn't exceed 10 . . . sure it could, just not for the natural animals in Bestiary.

Gudiomen 07-17-2008 06:16 PM
Re: Passive Defense of 3rd edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kromm
A common but erroneous belief. The Passive Defense advantage from Supers was so limited, but total PD from all sources had no special limit.
A missunderstanding probably born out of some inner instinct to fix the mechanic.

Figleaf23 07-17-2008 08:53 PM
Re: Passive Defense of 3rd edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pip Boy
Ps: In 3e, isn't maximum PD at 6?
Yes. Complaints about it reaching above that are misplaced.

Pip Boy 07-18-2008 11:12 AM
Re: Passive Defense of 3rd edition
 
Common indeed.
;)


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