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Dagger of Lath 06-15-2008 07:41 AM

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Maybe some information on early agriculture? While it may not be the most exciting field it was very relevant to the people of the time.

Information on horses, elephants and other such mounts as vehicles.

As grizzly as it may seem, some information on the dangers of childbirth and survivability since it was one of the huge shaping forces on human culture in those times.

vicky_molokh 06-15-2008 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagger of Lath
Maybe some information on early agriculture? While it may not be the most exciting field it was very relevant to the people of the time.

Information on horses, elephants and other such mounts as vehicles.

As grizzly as it may seem, some information on the dangers of childbirth and survivability since it was one of the huge shaping forces on human culture in those times.

Actually, all sorts of day-to-day differences between TLs 1&2, 2&3, 3&4. When I read the old LT, I could figure what's the big deal between TL3 and its neighbors, aside from weapons.

griffin 06-15-2008 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dangerious P. Cats
Of the 3ed Tech books my favourite was Low Tech. I even when so far as to use if for a history assignment at uni. I'm quite enthusiastic about a 4e version. What do you want to see in the updated low tech?

To start with I want it to keep the Low-Tech name (or something similar) not Fantasy Tech. I wouldn't mind to seeing a chapter on enhancing weapons using magical enchantment but that's not the primary need in this book. However, folks at Steve Jackson Games maintain that if the book even has fantasy in the title it will sell much better.

I want to see a wide range of weapons, armor, and technology covered from TL0 to TL4. With 200+ pages to work with I'm sure they'll be able to put a lot of material in the book - covering all the old stuff and adding lots of new stuff. I don't think the TL4 stuff that was covered in High-Tech 3e should be more than 20 pages or so.

I definitely want to see coverage for things like light sources - from candles and torches to lanterns and gas-lights (if they were introduced by TL4). I want to see lots of stuff on vehicles and animal handling as it pertains to transportation. Guidelines on making tools, armor, weapons etc. Stuff regarding selling and trading things.

I also want lots of illustrations. An index for the illustrations in similar fashion to GURPS Martial Arts would be great also.

b-dog 06-15-2008 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by griffin
To start with I want it to keep the Low-Tech name (or something similar) not Fantasy Tech.

Low-Tech is almost as bad a name as GURPS. Maybe Historical Tech or something like it.

whswhs 06-15-2008 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by griffin
I don't think the TL4 stuff that was covered in High-Tech 3e should be more than 20 pages or so.

I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that. Just doing gunpowder weapons might take up 20 pages.

Bill Stoddard

kdomke 06-15-2008 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by b-dog
Low-Tech is almost as bad a name as GURPS. Maybe Historical Tech or something like it.

But it fits into the row: Ultra, High, Low, I think, I would like it als Low Tech

whswhs 06-15-2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by b-dog
Low-Tech is almost as bad a name as GURPS. Maybe Historical Tech or something like it.

Low-Tech fits logically into the same series as High-Tech, and it's established by precedent. So likely you're stuck with it. "Historical Tech" would be a really bad name; after all, the Napoleonic era and World War II and even the fall of the Soviet Union are now history, so "Historical Tech" would include everything up to early TL8.

If I were titling the books, I might take inspiration from the title "Ultra-Tech" and call the book we're talking about "Infra-Tech" (and "Visible Tech" for the era in between). But I have an arcane sense of humor.

Bill Stoddard

griffin 06-15-2008 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by whswhs
I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that. Just doing gunpowder weapons might take up 20 pages.

Bill Stoddard

Well, I hope it doesn't require 20 pages just for the gunpowder weapons. If so than their might be a big problem. I'd think the book would be 256 pages just like High-Tech. GURPS Low-Tech was 128 pages so there's lots of room for additional material, but given the need to add TL4 and the desire to add fantasy elements (whatever that may entail) will add up to significant page count.

I'd definitely like to see illustrations along the lines of Martial Arts, and not just for weapons. I'd want to see this for equipment also, especially stuff may not be as well known.

Maybe there isn't that much more than gunpowder weapons for TL4 but I'd think that gunpowder weapons would consume less than half the page count needed to cover TL4. Certainly want to avoid the GURPS High-Tech 3e issue of being GURPS Guns Plus.

b-dog 06-15-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by whswhs
Low-Tech fits logically into the same series as High-Tech, and it's established by precedent. So likely you're stuck with it. "Historical Tech" would be a really bad name; after all, the Napoleonic era and World War II and even the fall of the Soviet Union are now history, so "Historical Tech" would include everything up to early TL8.

If I were titling the books, I might take inspiration from the title "Ultra-Tech" and call the book we're talking about "Infra-Tech" (and "Visible Tech" for the era in between). But I have an arcane sense of humor.

Bill Stoddard

I am just saying that Low-tech sounds bad. I am not sure what I would call it but that name stinks.

How about Early-tech?

ArmoredSaint 06-15-2008 10:58 AM

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More than anything else, I want to see updated armour technologies, specifically TL 4 steel plate--complete with improved game statistics (better DR, lower weight)--included in GURPS Low-Tech 4th Edition.


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