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[QUOTE=Randover]TNG stopped using the disintigrate setting so you could survive getting hit.

It's not an issue of restriction but of the lack of possibilities. It becomes difficult to do a session about taking on drug smugglers or terrorists for example because nobody uses recreational drugs in the Federation or protests violently, so the only way to get into it is to go and violate the Prime Directive. Of course one simple recourse is to abide by my guiding rule of Star Trek TNG: "Picard is a liar!". That way you can have lots of iffy stuff under the bland facade.


I think perhaps instead of going with Wealth at all, I'd run everything off Status and Rank. Thus, since Vash is a Status -2 character, while her minimum needs are met, she can't leave Earth on Federation, she has to live in a cramped apartment, and she has difficulty getting reservations at a restaurant until she improves her status with hard work and therapy.

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Actually, not true at all. Settings to disintegrate still existed in the modern Trek series (TNG/DS(/Voyager). As an example, Riker disintegrates Yuta in the 3rd season episode "The Vengeance Factor" after adjusting his phaser setting twice.

Basically, the phaser does what the writer wants it to do.

I know, its quite nitpicky, but Trek fans are that way. See the summary here:
http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/..._%28episode%29

Charles

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Economically, ST was BS. Sisko's dad had an eatery which could serve, say 400 dinners a night. If he's darned good and the food is free, who wouldn't want to go? Ration "tickets" are just another form of cash, albeit with single functions. Man goes from trading dead rabbits for sex...just to go back to a barter economy again. This is progress?

That said, what does any of this have to do with the poster needing help in designing a starship?

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The starship design question has already been answered quite well.

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I'll take that as a compliment then ;)

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I do not want to live in a world where the only way to improve my lot in life is to succeed at government approved therapy.

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Honestly, I tried to cite both reasons why the arguer is flawed, and why the argument is flawed, and why the arguer came to the conclusion he did. From a gaming perspective, Star Trek is a very lousy setting. There are awful large amounts of handwavium (my word for Plot Devices(tm)) abounding in that setting, in all aspects. Society requires that humankind raise above the petty differences, at least until the plot requires that they not. Money? It's there when the plot needs it, gone when it doesn't. Technology? Tech of the week? Need I say more? Wong picks and chooses his episodes to support his claims while ignoring every other episode that disproves his claims. As we're trying to answer gameworld questions about Star Trek, exposing a particular sources bias is essential to making sure that the gameworld is as close to canon as possible. I have my own bone to pick with Trek as a game setting, and the lack of consistancy which sinks Wong's arguments (all of them, from the lack of power of 24th Century Federation gear through his understanding of the culture and economy of Trek) is at the heart of that bone.

Gaming in Trek takes some GM decisions. Much like Wong, you have to throw out some source material (and make it non-canon to your Trek setting) in order to make it work. The Federation is truely a moneyless society? Then the gold pressed latinum people were bartering on DS9 is from outside the Federation. There are many ways you can handle the whole economy thing, but you must understand that your particular version of Trek will not match everything in the series.

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And the question was raised in the thread 'What does money have to do with trek ships', too. ;)

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I was talking about Vash Most Earthpeople don't have her -2 social standing. The therapy would be because she's a criminal and that's how the Feds handle crime.

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This is true. They don't focus on punishment in Trek as much as Rehab. That was pretty much true from TNG.

And if by -2 social standing, you mean 'Reputation, -2, *insert some group here*, *insert some frequency* (Criminal)', then yes, Vash is definitely at -2 reaction, especially from scientists and people who value order.