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Anaraxes 10-31-2014 09:10 AM

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Nice. Most of those seem like they'd be pretty terrifying even if they were cleaned up and in repair.

Is Halloween a thing in Russia or Ukraine? (I remember Jürgen Hubert once calling for a Halloween article for his Arcana Wiki, as he barely knew about it. I didn't think it was much of a tradition outside of ex-British nations and Japan.)

vicky_molokh 10-31-2014 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Anaraxes (Post 1831349)
Is Halloween a thing in Russia or Ukraine? (I remember Jürgen Hubert once calling for a Halloween article for his Arcana Wiki, as he barely knew about it. I didn't think it was much of a tradition outside of ex-British nations and Japan.)

Judging by my colleague dressed up all Morticia Addams-ish sitting a few yards to the left . . . it is here, though it isn't celebrated by everyone. The geek community overall seems to acknowledge the day, at the absolute minimum, and e-newspapers also seem to care about it about as much as about other minor (non-day-off) holidays.

I'm not so sure about Russia - I remember recently reading an article claiming that celebrating Halloween is rather anti-patriotic, because it's a piece of Western culture. But really, no idea how prevalent the recognition of the date is among their population.

Now, could you two please explain to me, what did I miss about my links that you seem to be thinking the pictures are somehow related to Halloween? Edit: Oh. The picture at the beginning. Eh, I just thought of it as the Silent Hill soundtrack.

Anaraxes 10-31-2014 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by vicky_molokh (Post 1831352)
what did I miss about my links that you seem to be thinking the pictures are somehow related to Halloween?

Yes, the "Happy Halloween" intro to the Silent Hill video, as well as the posting date.

But I'm sure the playground is creepy year round :)

Flyndaran 10-31-2014 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vicky_molokh (Post 1831352)
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Now, could you two please explain to me, what did I miss about my links that you seem to be thinking the pictures are somehow related to Halloween? Edit: Oh. The picture at the beginning. Eh, I just thought of it as the Silent Hill soundtrack.

In the U.S., nearly anything remotely scary in October will be thought of as pertaining to Halloween.

Anders 11-01-2014 10:44 AM

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The clownocalypse is night.

To a tweet about the surreal events in Southern France.

William 11-03-2014 09:27 PM

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http://video.nationalgeographic.com/...st-velvet-worm

Scale that up to human-size and you get a very nice dungeon or wilderness predator: a blood-red worm of a thousand soft fat little legs, eyeless but using its antennae to sense air currents, climbing trees and walls (slowly, quietly) as it homes in on motion. It sprays its target with fast-drying adhesive to trap it, then uses its armor-piercing proboscis to inject digestive acid while its target is trapped, but fully conscious...

Johnny1A.2 11-03-2014 10:36 PM

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Are you arachnophobic?

If so, you might want to avoid the Baltimore Wastewater Treatment Plant, because they seem to have a few spiders about:

http://www.wired.com/2014/10/4-acre-...ulfs-building/

Johnny1A.2 11-17-2014 01:03 AM

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It looks like an ordinary grove of aspens, but it's really a single 80,000 years old tree...or is it actually one million years old?

Or maybe not, but it's interesting, anyway:

Pando

sjard 11-21-2014 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny1A.2 (Post 1837862)
It looks like an ordinary grove of aspens, but it's really a single 80,000 years old tree...or is it actually one million years old?

Or maybe not, but it's interesting, anyway:

Pando

Oh, that thing. It's pretty I'll say that, and a nice place to hike through. (it's practically in my back yard, about an hour and a bit south, I believe there's another nearby as well or potentially so anyway according to the wildlife department). It was big news here when they announced that it was just one organism a year or so ago.

Daigoro 11-22-2014 07:06 PM

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The 19th Century Blueprint For A Massive Mind-Control Machine

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The Air Loom worked, as its name suggests, by weaving "airs", or gases, into a "warp of magnetic fluid" which was then directed at its victim....
It was fuelled by combinations of "fetid effluvia", including "spermatic-animal-seminal rays", "putrid human breath", and "gaz from the anus of the horse", and its magnetic warp assailed Matthews' brain in a catalogue of forms known as "event-workings". These included "brain-saying" and "dream-working", by which thoughts were forced into his brain against his will, and a terrifying array of physical tortures from "knee nailing", "vital tearing" and "fibre ripping" to "apoplexy-working with the nutmeg grater" and the dreaded "lobster-cracking", where the air around his chest was constricted until he was unable to breathe.
This has to go in the next edition of Steamtech.

William 11-24-2014 12:31 PM

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The mind-control machine is an interesting psychosis. The "machine" part of it is clearly something that could only exist after mechanization. I suppose the same illness earlier would have been more attributable to demonic possession or magical mind control.

--------

From a Washington Post article on "ultraconserved words," the oldest that survive in some form reasonably connected to their first construction:

Quote:

You, hear me! Give this fire to that old man. Pull the black worm off the bark and give it to the mother. And no spitting in the ashes!

It’s an odd little speech. But if you went back 15,000 years and spoke these words to hunter-gatherers in Asia in any one of hundreds of modern languages, there is a chance they would understand at least some of what you were saying.

That’s because all of the nouns, verbs, adjectives and adverbs in the four sentences are words that have descended largely unchanged from a language that died out as the glaciers retreated at the end of the last Ice Age. Those few words mean the same thing, and sound almost the same, as they did then.
A little ritual, perhaps, for mages who find it advantageous to use older words. Perhaps they're close to the speech of angels, or the True Words?

Daigoro 11-30-2014 05:00 AM

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I don't vouch for the veracity of any of the stories on this spiritual site, but it's a handy set of "time travel incidents".

I found a link to a contemporary news article for the Swiss watch in a Ming Dynasty tomb story, but haven't found anyone offering an explanation.

A commenter mentions Paul Amadeus Dienach, a Swiss teacher from 1921 who supposedly visited the future during a year-long coma.

Another one is this ghost train story, where a train disappeared on a trip from Rome, with the coda of the passengers having shown up in Mexico City half a century earlier, but I couldn't find any info on the providence of the story.

And finally, a Spanish soldier is supposed to have teleported from the Philippines to Mexico City in 1593.

William 12-02-2014 10:26 PM

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Occasionally a truly extraordinary thing deserves entry in this thread, in a good sense:

An NFL football player leaves a multi-million dollar contract offer on the table to become a farmer.

And not a commercial farmer, either -- he grew 46,000 pounds of sweet potatoes and 10,000 pounds of cucumbers, and gave them away to food pantries, and that's just so far.

I don't know what his costs are for a 1,000-acre farm, or how long he can sustain an operation like that... certainly if he can't give it away any more, he's not going to go hungry selling that at normal farm prices and giving away what he can.

An NFL player may not be Cincinnatus, but Cincinnatus couldn't claim charity like that.

William 12-04-2014 09:26 AM

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Well, I think I could use this as a name for a game villain:

Project SIINN

The European Research Agency's program on Safe Implementation of Innovative Nanoscience and Nanotechnology, complete with an icon of a hand holding a buckminsterfullerene (a truncated icosahedron or dodecahedron) surrounded by seven stars. I'll just leave the possibilities there hanging.

Side effects of innovative nanotechnology may include persistent nightmares, glossolalia, skin darkening or reddening, scaly or horn-like epidermal growths, and visits from unnameable entities with inviolable commandments.

SolemnGolem 12-10-2014 04:12 PM

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When Art Preempts Life

I finally declared my earliest ever GURPS campaign deceased, and I have distributed "what could have been" plot summaries and spoilers to the players.

Looking through the notes, I found one weird little coincidence is that they tracked down a prophet (a tall bearded type who wore flowing robes and a turban) and cornered him in a farmhouse, where he took refuge in an upstairs bedroom with his wives. The PCs couldn't bring themselves to kill him so they sent in the party's two paramilitary types, who went in with an assault rifle and shot him in head.

My notes show that this session happened in March 2011, about a month and a half before Navy SEALs did something faintly similar in Abbotabad, Pakistan.

Granted, it's just a passing similarity, and bin Laden's death seemed to go pretty much the way that these raids normally go. But it was still a little "huh, neat" moment for the group.

Daigoro 12-13-2014 10:19 PM

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Been reading Madness Dossier, finally, so these two seem apt.

- Mathematician tracks down the earliest use of zero to a shed in Cambodia filled with artifacts looted from local archaeological sites.
The Origin of the Number Zero
Note that he admits he "grew up on a cruise ship in the Mediterranean" and boasts that he found "a magic square on the doorway of a tenth-century Jain temple".


- Odd counting systems
12 Mind Blowing Number Systems From Other Languages


And who doesn't like Euro-mummies?
- Only the well-dressed elite can join Capuchin Monastery's 'Club Dead'
- Why does this child mummy appear to open and close her eyes?

vicky_molokh 12-14-2014 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Daigoro (Post 1847908)

Well that certainly debunks the 'anything except base-8, 10, 12 or 20 is too weird/hard to ever be invented by a realistic culture'!

Daigoro 12-14-2014 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by vicky_molokh (Post 1847951)
Well that certainly debunks the 'anything except base-8, 10, 12 or 20 is too weird/hard to ever be invented by a realistic culture'!

It's one of those things that you'd just have to use in a game but that you wouldn't dare use in a game.

Anders 12-14-2014 04:39 AM

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Greenpeace wrecks important archelogical site

Flyndaran 12-14-2014 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by vicky_molokh (Post 1847951)
Well that certainly debunks the 'anything except base-8, 10, 12 or 20 is too weird/hard to ever be invented by a realistic culture'!

The really silly part is all the convoluted subtraction/addition rather than specific base number, in my opinion.
We say 97, not 10 times 10 minus 3.

Flyndaran 12-14-2014 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Anders (Post 1847976)

Extremists doing idiotic extreme things isn't weird, sadly. Most large organizations begat fanatics.

vicky_molokh 12-14-2014 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1847980)
The really silly part is all the convoluted subtraction/addition rather than specific base number, in my opinion.
We say 97, not 10 times 10 minus 3.

We do write 'XIX' and not 'XVIIII', though. (I've also occasionally seen 'MCMXCVII' used on TV copyright dates, that is, the year being written in non-Arabic too.)
And people quite often name the time of the day in terms the number of minutes left until reaching a given hour.

Johnny1A.2 12-14-2014 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1847982)
Extremists doing idiotic extreme things isn't weird, sadly. Most large organizations begat fanatics.

Not so much fanatics, I suspect, as clueless.

ak_aramis 12-15-2014 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1847980)
The really silly part is all the convoluted subtraction/addition rather than specific base number, in my opinion.
We say 97, not 10 times 10 minus 3.

We say 9x10 plus 7, linguistically. Our decades are elided and evolved versions of ___ tens. Albeit, in derivation from the middle english affix -tig, meaning tens, and pronounced close to "teeg". It's pretty standard to find elisions of final consonants over time. (in German, it's -zig; similar use and sound.)

And we do use subtractive math in English. Usually in time keeping. "Quarter to 7," or "5 'til 8."

And every so often, my grandfather would use "A hundred less a penny," "A hundred less a dime," or "A hundred less a dollar." But he was cantankerous.

And we all use subtractive notation in the Roman Number System...

MCM = 1900 = 1000+(1000-100)
IX = 9 = (10-1)
IIX = VIII = 8 = 10-(1+1) or 5+1+1+1
IC = 99 = 100-1
XC = 90 = 100-10

Daigoro 12-15-2014 06:20 AM

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Not to mention the archaic English usage of "three score and ten" or "four score and seven".

Hans Rancke-Madsen 12-15-2014 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Daigoro (Post 1847971)
It's one of those things that you'd just have to use in a game but that you wouldn't dare use in a game.

Fiction has to be plausible; reality is under no such constraint.


Hans

Hans Rancke-Madsen 12-15-2014 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1847980)
We say 97, not 10 times 10 minus 3.

What do you mean, "we"? I say [seven and four and a half scores].


Hans

Irish Wolf 12-15-2014 08:51 AM

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And those of us who speak English needn't feel all superior. The words for numbers are unique, up until "twelve". Then you get "thirteen" ("three and ten"), "fourteen" ("four and ten"), and so forth. Other than multiples of ten, the rest of the numbers work the same way.

Flyndaran 12-15-2014 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish Wolf (Post 1848426)
And those of us who speak English needn't feel all superior. The words for numbers are unique, up until "twelve". Then you get "thirteen" ("three and ten"), "fourteen" ("four and ten"), and so forth. Other than multiples of ten, the rest of the numbers work the same way.

And the horrors of not translating for medication, you get once meaning 1 to a monolingual English speaker to it meaning 11 to a monolingual Spanish speaker.

Flyndaran 12-15-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny1A.2 (Post 1848219)
Not so much fanatics, I suspect, as clueless.

Refusal to even imagine rational arguments against your actions is the very definition of fanatic, I think. Their mission is all the matters in the world.

Anders 12-15-2014 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hans Rancke-Madsen (Post 1848410)
What do you mean, "we"? I say [seven and four and a half scores].


Hans

Yes, but everything becomes much clearer once you realize that the Danish counting system was invented by aliens from the fifth dimension.

Flyndaran 12-15-2014 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Anders (Post 1848571)
Yes, but everything becomes much clearer once you realize that the Danish counting system was invented by aliens from the fifth dimension.

And if they ever say their age backwards, they're sent back.

Bruno 12-15-2014 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1847980)
The really silly part is all the convoluted subtraction/addition rather than specific base number, in my opinion.
We say 97, not 10 times 10 minus 3.

"Four score and seven years ago..."
"Quarter to twelve"

English is just as guilty.

Flyndaran 12-15-2014 08:30 PM

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It's cheating to use the very few examples of English detouring off base ten.
Everything circle related is base 360 and time is in units of 60, 12, and 7. Yet I would laugh at anyone saying English isn't base 10.

Irish Wolf 12-15-2014 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1847980)
The really silly part is all the convoluted subtraction/addition rather than specific base number, in my opinion.
We say 97, not 10 times 10 minus 3.

You mean "nine times ten plus seven"?

vicky_molokh 12-16-2014 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1848718)
It's cheating to use the very few examples of English detouring off base ten.
Everything circle related is base 360 and time is in units of 60, 12, and 7. Yet I would laugh at anyone saying English isn't base 10.

Using subtraction in no way changes the number-base of a language or a subset of language.

That being said, English has base-60 for time, indeed, complete with 'quarter' meaning '15 of the lower unit'. Which makes English have no less than two bases, one for time within a day, one for other stuff. Just like the language that uses a different base for shields.
Eggs are counted by dozens in the Anglophone parts of the world, IIRC. (Around here, having a 10-pack of eggs is perfectly reasonable, but apparently this is a local thing.)

Anders 12-16-2014 03:00 AM

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Oh yes, we have base 10, base 12 (for some food items), base 60 (for time), base 360 (for degrees).

ak_aramis 12-16-2014 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by vicky_molokh (Post 1848807)
Eggs are counted by dozens in the Anglophone parts of the world, IIRC.

Actually, by dozens and grosses (a gross is a dozen dozen).

Baked goods by the gross and dozen as well, but usually the dozen is 13 by custom, while the gross remains 12 dozen no matter whether the dozen is the standard dozen or the baker's dozen. The gross is falling out of common use.

So there's also base 12.

And "Traditional English Measure" as we call it... (which everyone else calls US customary measure)

4 dram = 1 tbsp
1 1/3 dram = 1tsp
3 tsp =1 tbsp
2 tbsp = 8 dram = 1 fl. oz.
4 fl oz = 1 gill
8 fl oz = 2 gill = 1 cup
2 cups = 1 pint
2 pints = 1 quart =( one-quarter gallon)
2 quarts = half gallon
4 quarts = 2 half gallons = 1 gallon
2 gallons = peck

12 inches = 1 foot...
4 inches = 1 hand
3 hands = 1 foot.
3 feet = 1 yard
2 yards = 1 fathom
5.5 yd = 1 rod
4 rods = chain
40 rods = 10 chain = 1 Furlong (used mostly in horse racing)
8 Furlong = 5280 feet = 1 statute mile.
League = 3 miles

a mix of base 2 and base 3 steps,

And then, until 1965, the UK's "LSD money"... using 3, 4, and 5 in no particular pattern...
4 farthings = 1d (pence, also written -/1)
12d = 1s (shilling) (also written 1/-)
20s = £1 (pound)
4d = 1 groat
3 groats = 1s
2s = 1 florin
2/5 = 1 half-crown
5s = 1 crown (also called 1 dollar)
2 crowns = 1 half-sovereign
4 crowns = £1 = 1 sovereign
21s = 1 guinea = £1 1/-
A mix of alternating 4's and 3's with a 5...

Anaraxes 12-16-2014 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ak_aramis (Post 1848842)
Baked goods ... usually the dozen is 13 by custom

Sometimes I see a baker's dozen, most often with doughnuts, once in a while with cookies. I wouldn't stretch the frequency to "usually", though. It's an occasional goodwill bonus with treats. I don't think I've ever seen 13 rolls in a package, for instance, or bagels.

ak_aramis 12-16-2014 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Anaraxes (Post 1848906)
Sometimes I see a baker's dozen, most often with doughnuts, once in a while with cookies. I wouldn't stretch the frequency to "usually", though. It's an occasional goodwill bonus with treats. I don't think I've ever seen 13 rolls in a package, for instance, or bagels.

I have but not in the last 10 years. Essentially, not in big-box world. Last time I bought bagels at a mom-n-pop type bakery, there were thirteen in the box; two rows of 6, and on sideways in the center...

the baker's dozen is fading, but it's still present in some places, and worth noting.

Daigoro 12-17-2014 08:39 AM

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Japanese numbers are easy enough to start with- knowing 1-10 gets you up to 99 by appropriate combinations.

But then they have a 10^4 system for generating large numbers, rather than English's 10^3. To explain:
10 - ju
100 - hyaku
1000 - sen
1,0000 - man
These combine to make larger numbers until you get to:
1,0000,0000 - oku
1,0000,0000,0000 - cho
... and so on.
Once you get the hang of it, this is easy enough to handle, as long as you continue to think in Japanese. The problem is when you try to translate back to English numbers, and doubly so when converting yen to dollars (at 100:1). I have to stop and think in index numbers before I can figure out the English.

Then there's counting. They use different number suffixes for different kinds of objects- generic things (-tsu or -ko), flat things (-mai), thin things (-hon), books (-satsu), people (-ri/-nin), animals (-hiki), birds (-wa) and so on. And the number prefixes are either from Japanese roots or Chinese roots or a mixture, just depending. Frequency and floors in a building are identical (-kai), except for 3, when 3 times is "sankai" but 3rd floor is "sangai". You could compare it to English's fascination with collective nouns (pride, herd, pack, gang) except it's far more integral to language use and comprehension.

Hans Rancke-Madsen 12-17-2014 09:08 AM

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Then there are the unusual Medieval Roman numerals. Some of the letters stand for the oddest numbers (e.g. 6, 7, 11, 151).


Hans

Daigoro 12-19-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hans Rancke-Madsen (Post 1849266)
Then there are the unusual Medieval Roman numerals. Some of the letters stand for the oddest numbers (e.g. 6, 7, 11, 151).


Hans

Speaking of unusual numbers, I just saw that Japanese covers up to 10^68 (or 10^88), which is unusually large. It's easy enough to come up with names for arbitrarily large numbers (e.g. a googolplex), but I can't imagine if 10^68 was ever needed in 17th century Japan (the source of these numbers was a 17th C Japanese maths text). Possibly such numbers are talked about in esoteric Buddhism.


---

More world weirdness-
A million corpse cemetary from 7th century Egypt
Another interesting find was that the corpses appeared to be grouped together by hair colour, with one section containing the remains of those with blonde hair and another for those with red hair.

Anaraxes 12-19-2014 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Daigoro (Post 1849880)
Speaking of unusual numbers... up to 10^68 (or 10^88), which is unusually large... Possibly such numbers are talked about in esoteric Buddhism.

Archimedes invents a notation in "The Sand Reckoner" for expressing large numbers. It uses powers of a Greek myriad (10^4, as with the Chinese/Japanese power series) so that he can calculate his estimate of 8 x 10^63 grains of sand to fill the universe. Actually, it uses powers of powers of powers, or you could describe it as positional notation in base 10^8.

The story behind the Towers of Hanoi is most likely apocryphal, but if somehow not not, those monks needed the number 2^64 - 1.

Flyndaran 12-19-2014 04:25 PM

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English has googol and googolplex, but those are silly completely useless numbers.

Anders 01-08-2015 04:17 PM

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Alex Jones thinks your lightbulbs are programmed to kill you.

stefanj 01-13-2015 10:49 PM

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Pendleton Ward (creator of Adventure Time) and Pat McHale (creator of the creepy/whimsical mini-series Over the Garden Wall) collaborated on an RPG (possibly a LARP) in 2006: http://www.angelfire.com/punk/lifequest/

Why am I not surprised?

It is so cool seeing kids who grew up as gamers being given the reins of television shows that become hits.

jeff_wilson 01-14-2015 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Daigoro (Post 1849880)
Speaking of unusual numbers, I just saw that Japanese covers up to 10^68 (or 10^88), which is unusually large. [...]. Possibly such numbers are talked about in esoteric Buddhism.

That number is only about the 17th - 22nd power of 10,000, which makes it about as "extreme" as sextodecillion.

Flyndaran 01-14-2015 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jeff_wilson (Post 1858717)
That number is only about the 17th - 22nd power of 10,000, which makes it about as "extreme" as sextodecillion.

Such a common "real" English word that a basic Google search showed a whole 6 results.

thorr-kan 01-21-2015 02:26 PM

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X-ray technique reads burnt Vesuvius scroll
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30888767

Because as any CoC player can tell you, "Sure this is a good idea!"

Anders 01-24-2015 02:19 PM

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Over 80 percent of americans support mandatory labels on foods containing DNA.

vicky_molokh 01-24-2015 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Anders (Post 1862668)

Huh. And I was raising eyebrows that Russia recently officially declared theology to be a science. Now I'm not sure which one is more 'radical'.

johndallman 01-24-2015 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Anders (Post 1862668)

Sounds like time to revive the campaign against dihydrogen monoxide.

Daigoro 01-24-2015 10:43 PM

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One sure way to disturb a mummy's rest-
King Tut’s mask, world’s ‘most famous archaeological relic,’ has been permanently damaged

Flyndaran 01-25-2015 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Anders (Post 1862668)

Since I demand labeling on all food, and all food has, or at least had, D.N.A. in it, I would therefore have to support such a position.
Tell me how I'm wrong. ;)

Agemegos 01-25-2015 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 1862896)
Since I demand labeling on all food, and all food has, or at least had, D.N.A. in it, I would therefore have to support such a position.
Tell me how I'm wrong. ;)

Salt, baking soda, gelatine, sugar, meringue…

I'm not even sure that there are cells in butter or vegetable oils.

Flyndaran 01-25-2015 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Agemegos (Post 1862915)
Salt, baking soda, gelatine, sugar, meringue…

I'm not even sure that there are cells in butter or vegetable oils.

Meringue is egg whites. There is never any D.N.A. contamination in it?
Who calls pure salt or baking soda food? Remind me not to visit you during dinner time. ;)

But seriously, I'll give you some heavily processed / chemically refined products as never having D.N.A.

woodchuck 01-25-2015 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by johndallman (Post 1862700)
Sounds like time to revive the campaign against dihydrogen monoxide.

Dihydrogen monoxide contains radioactive tritium and deuterium. Both are used in thermonuclear weapons.

cptbutton 01-25-2015 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by woodchuck (Post 1862967)
Dihydrogen monoxide contains radioactive tritium and deuterium. Both are used in thermonuclear weapons.

Hardly surprising given that dihydrogen monoxide is an essential component of most nuclear reactors.

Anaraxes 01-25-2015 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cptbutton (Post 1862969)
Hardly surprising given that dihydrogen monoxide is an essential component of most nuclear reactors.

And they're even allowed to dump that stuff into our water supply.

Flyndaran 01-25-2015 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Anaraxes (Post 1862974)
And they're even allowed to dump that stuff into our water supply.

Most toxins and pollutants dissolve in it vastly increasing toxicity and area of spread.
I say that only half jokingly.

vicky_molokh 01-29-2015 05:59 AM

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Yes, they have a warship LARP on a real warship; what?

thorr-kan 01-29-2015 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by vicky_molokh (Post 1864830)

That's just...I llke that.

Daigoro 02-03-2015 05:47 AM

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If you can't see adventure possibilities in an underground stolen self-mummified monk smuggling ring, perhaps you've taken up the wrong hobby...
Mummified monk is ‘not dead’ and in rare meditative state, says expert

And something about the Mummies of Yamagata
The Gruesome and Excruciating Practice of Mummifying Your Own Body

And the Chinese-Arabian Honey Mummy
Mellified Man

somecallmetim 02-07-2015 09:33 AM

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Apparently, 50% of the DNA sequenced from samples in the NYC subway system match no known organism. Sure, in the real world, its just a bunch of previously unsequenced bacteria, but the potential for a scan like that to find evidence of alien or ghoul DNA could make a fun plot point or start to a campaign. "CDC vs. the Mythos!"

Anaraxes 02-07-2015 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by somecallmetim (Post 1867694)
50% of the DNA sequenced from samples in the NYC subway system match no known organism.

Some of the samples are a close match for the alligator, though, except for some odd anomalies in the genes controlling growth and size.

somecallmetim 02-07-2015 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Anaraxes (Post 1867721)
Some of the samples are a close match for the alligator, though, except for some odd anomalies in the genes controlling growth and size.

I like the way you think.

William 02-09-2015 08:08 PM

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I learned about this recently and it seemed bizarre enough to be included in this thread... bizarre partly because it was considered normal, public behavior among a population that I can only hope I would have refused to be part of should I have lived in the day, for they were my countrymen, race, and rough economic level.

It is the spectacular lynching. It is something that, in the heat of a plot set any time before the modern day, a group might encounter as the effects of racism, a witch hunt, a red scare, or the equivalent phenomenon in the campaign's culture. Would your PC stand up against it if they saw it? Knowing that the mob might turn on him; that, if he survived, he might be unsafe in his home, exiled and penniless, for showing compassion to the victim?

Below are some short snippets from descriptions of a number of such events. Under the spoiler, because the descriptions are incredibly graphic.

Spoiler:  

Anders 02-11-2015 12:32 PM

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During the peace negotiations between Sweden and Denmark 1613, both kings were banned from attending. They had sabotaged previous peace negotiations. However, they both attended anyway - in disguise.

ericthered 02-11-2015 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Anders (Post 1869075)
During the peace negotiations between Sweden and Denmark 1613, both kings were banned from attending. They had sabotaged previous peace negotiations. However, they both attended anyway - in disguise.

nice ... can I get a link?

Flyndaran 02-11-2015 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Anders (Post 1869075)
During the peace negotiations between Sweden and Denmark 1613, both kings were banned from attending. They had sabotaged previous peace negotiations. However, they both attended anyway - in disguise.

I mean this with all the kindness imaginable, but your countries up there have some of the funniest odd instances of history.

Anders 02-12-2015 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ericthered (Post 1869106)
nice ... can I get a link?

I don't think I have a link in English. It was in 1611, during the so-called Kalmar War. Swedish historians don't want to talk about it because we clearly lost.

The previous "peace negotiations" had been handled by the kings. King Charles IX of Sweden had opened them by challenging the Danish king to a duel "in the old Geatish way", with only a helmet for protection.

Christian IV answered by saying that the Swedish king was better suited for pity than for a fight, that a warm fire would be better for the old king, and that he needed a doctor to "make [his] head right again". He finished his note by saying that the Charles had apparently learned his manners from a whore who "wards herself by barking".

There was no peace.

Edit: Note that this wasn't even the lowest point of Swedish diplomacy. That took place in an infamous exchange of letters between John III and Ivan IV in 1572-1573, where the czar claimed that John was the son of a lowly peasant and that the czar was as the Heavens to John's lowly Earth. Upon reading this, John III completely lost it and sent a letter in which he said a) that the czar must have been raised by a peasant or a monk since he does not know how to write to a king; b) that John's father was a powerful noble and gave a very extensive account for his noble heritage; and c) that the czar had so poisoned his mouth with lies that it could never be clean again. He then wishes that the czar be reduced to a thrall, says that all Russians are ignoble thralls as well, and says that if the czar trembles over his letter and wishes to make peace, John will magnamoniously grant it, if the czar send his highest nobles to treat with the Swedish king.

Johnny1A.2 02-12-2015 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Anders (Post 1869075)
During the peace negotiations between Sweden and Denmark 1613, both kings were banned from attending. They had sabotaged previous peace negotiations. However, they both attended anyway - in disguise.

Who did the banning? Who did the monarchs have to answer in those days?

Nereidalbel 02-13-2015 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny1A.2 (Post 1869532)
Who did the banning? Who did the monarchs have to answer in those days?

Either religious authority, or generals promising a coup if they interfered.

Anders 02-13-2015 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny1A.2 (Post 1869532)
Who did the banning? Who did the monarchs have to answer in those days?

The Swedish Privy Council (Marshal, Admiral, Treasurer, Chancellor and Chief Justice). This was before the advent of absolute monarchy. Charles IX had died from a stroke soon after the exchange of notes, so the Swedish throne was occupied by Gustav II Adolf (age 19; and there hadn't been a formal coronation ceremony yet; that had to wait until 1617). The Swedish king was fairly powerful - Charles IX had beheaded most of the top nobles in order to take control of the country - but Christian IV's ability to do what he wanted was sharply restricted by constitutional means. IIRC, the war wasn't officially between the King of Denmark and Sweden, but actually between the Count of Holstein-Gottorp and Sweden, and Christian IV had to pay for everything himself. Peter or Hans may know more. Absolute monarchs didn't become a thing until the second half of the 17th century.

The Swedish king was dependent on the Riksdag of the Estates for foreign policy, be able to conscript soldiers and take out extra taxes for wars.

Edit edit: Having consulted with the history professor who gave the lesson I heard on this, he says that while the Privy Council couldn't absolutely ban the kings from attending, they could tell them in very strong terms that it would be unwise and beneath the kings to attend. And you can probably find stories like these about most 15th-16th-17th century monarchies - it's just that I happen to love history and read voraciously. And Sweden is relatively unaffected by patriotism, so we don't hide embarassing events like these. For instance, did you know that England had a king who believed he was made of glass?

Daigoro 02-24-2015 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Daigoro (Post 1866365)
If you can't see adventure possibilities in an underground stolen self-mummified monk smuggling ring, perhaps you've taken up the wrong hobby...
Mummified monk is ‘not dead’ and in rare meditative state, says expert

And something about the Mummies of Yamagata
The Gruesome and Excruciating Practice of Mummifying Your Own Body

And the Chinese-Arabian Honey Mummy
Mellified Man

More in the same vein:
CT Scan of 1,000-Year-Old Buddha Statue Reveals Mummified Monk Hidden Inside

David Johnston2 02-24-2015 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nereidalbel (Post 1869583)
For instance, did you know that England had a king who believed he was made of glass?

I'm pretty sure they didn't since I recall Charles VI of France having that exact delusion. I know of him because of Bal des Ardents, an object lesson in not playing with fire.

Anders 02-24-2015 03:28 AM

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Right. Charles VI, sorry about that. I was thinking of Henry VI, who was also insane.

RogerBW 02-24-2015 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Anders (Post 1873707)
Right. Charles VI, sorry about that. I was thinking of Henry VI, who was also insane.

The glass delusion (see Wikipedia) was quite a common form of madness in that period. It seems to have gone out of the zeitgeist now. As parodied by Bujold (Brothers in Arms):

"The fifth Countess Vorkosigan was said to suffer from the periodic delusion that she was made of glass."
"What finally happened to her?" asked Elli in a tone of fascination.
"One of her irritated relations eventually dropped and broke her."
"The delusion was that intense?"
"It was off a twenty-meter-tall turret."

stefanj 02-25-2015 06:11 PM

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OMFG I love stuff like this:

"I assume the women were MTA employees, but definitely not track workers. Or at least, not dressed to do track work. They were both middle aged and looked like commuters. We were in the first car. They came through the car from behind and made their way to the front. We hardly noticed since so many people move to the front on the G.

A few minutes after, the train stopped. We realized that they were talking to the conductor, who had come out of his area. Everyone was pretty quiet. I think we all thought something bad was happening. It was so unusual for the train to stop and the conductor to be in the car.



So then, the conductor comes to one of the center doors, he unlocks one of the poster cases next to the doors of the train and reveals this mechanical area. At this point, everyone I was with was super tense. It seemed like there must be some sort of emergency, so it was super quiet on the train. Anyway, he just pulls the lever, opens the door and the women step out onto this concrete platform. I didn't see this, but my co-worker David Reilly says that there was some sort of room on the platform with frosted windows with bars on them ."

Full Story:

http://gothamist.com/2015/02/25/secr...ortal_whoa.php

Somewhere in a room full of robed figures a man carrying a white cat is cursing and shouting "We've been compromised. Evacuate this facility. And see that the mind-wipe team on duty that night never has a chance to fail us again."

(Growing up on LI, I heard stories about other Subway oddities, like a heavily guarded flatbed subway car that once made pick-ups of sacks of tokens from the stations at night.)


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