Re: Parry a Slam?
 

On a "weapon breaks vs. Slam" result, maybe a roll on the Critical Miss table would be an interesting alternative. The weapon breaking or being dropped, or turned in the hand are pretty common results there. There is a small possibility of falling down, but the most likely results are rather milder than a weapon break, so I would imagine most Slam parriers being open to it, and the variability of result is nice.

Re: Parry a Slam?
 

My money's on the 150 pound meatbag, actually. And AFAIK, the slammer still suffers the consequences of attacking unarmed.

Re: Parry a Slam?
 

Not impossible, but consider whether or not slamming is a valid tactic in whatever simulation you are basing the conclusion on.
A fencer trained in an art that halts for corps-a-corps and resets may act very differently than one trained to clear away any intervening blade and run his opponent down.
Not having done an exhaustive search I cannot say that only the first way is taught anymore but I would be interested to know if the art you are referencing includes punching with a basket hilt, checking/slamming and stomping on the opponent's foot as legitimate maneuvers. If so I would find this to be a rarity (but an interesting one).

Re: Parry a Slam?
 

Oh yeah, my money too, what little of it there is. No argument on whether the rules ought to discourage parrying slams with daggers instead of big heavy thangs. The weird part is that the discouragement takes the form of weapon breakage - when in this case weapon droppage, weapon no-stop-slammage, etc, seem much more likely. (I emphasized the softness of the slammer to cast doubt on weapon breakage, not to suggest that Dagger Parry Guy should have an advantage.)

Haven't really thought it through, but I rather like the suggestion above of substituting a parry crit fail roll for weapon breakage that violates common sense, while of course still applying the consequences of unarmed attacker + successful armed parry.

Re: Parry a Slam?
 

I do too. But I still think that it should be slam vs. dodge (no parry). If you have aggressive parry you can choose to get hit but do damage to the opponent.

Re: Parry a Slam?
 

So is it possible to attempt this sort of parry against a shield slam from the rear? say in a runaround situation where you do get a penalized parry. It seems the rules technically allow for this but I do not see it possible to make this sort of brace against the slam.

Re: Parry a Slam?
 

For 7 years, this thread lay unquiet in its grave, until the dread necromancer known as Henquist intoned:I don't see why it would be impossible. If you've been visually tracking the attacker during their runaround, you have some time to react, and (as you noted) you're already being penalized for the effective Flank.

Re: Parry a Slam?
 

As far as the mass issue, Pyramid 3-77 has an interesting (and often previously discussed) alternative to the standard, though it won't make a huge difference at ST 12
A run-around slam is a pretty awkward maneuver in its own right...

Re: Parry a Slam?
 

Yah. It's me trying to dance.

Re: Parry a Slam?
 

Once you get that problem heeled you should be back on the dance floor...



I'm with Dustin and Ulzgoroth, the penalty takes into account the difficulty of turning and bracing against the attack, so you can attempt to parry a run-around slam.