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Aquabatics Prerequisites

I am wondering why Semi-Aquatic isn't one of the optional prerequisites for this skill. In the RAW it states: "Swimming, or the Amphibious advantage or the Aquatic disadvantage". IMO, this should state "Swimming, or the Amphibious advantage, the Aquatic disadvantage or the Semi-Aquatic disadvantage".

Semi-Aquatic beings are just as equipped for this as an Aquatic being would be, do you think?

Re: Aquabatics Prerequisites

A minor oversight, I'd say. Yeah... Semi-Aquatic should count as a prereq also.

Re: Aquabatics Prerequisites

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Originally Posted by Not another shrubbery

A minor oversight, I'd say. Yeah... Semi-Aquatic should count as a prereq also.

I can't imagine someone with Semi-Aquatic ever willing to learn Aquabatics. It will be a skill with a built-in penalty for its main use! Read carefully:

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Originally Posted by B145

Semi-Aquatic: You "walk" on flippers,
like a seal. Use Basic Move as
your basic water Move and 1/5 this as
your ground Move - that is, reverse the
normal relationship between ground
and water Move. You suffer standard
skill penalties in the water. 0 points.

You suffer skill penalties under water, yet move at 1/5 on the ground too! Now, if there was a way to suffer skill penalties on land instead of underwater (I once asked for such a swap's legality in a thread), that would be another matter.

Re: Aquabatics Prerequisites

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Originally Posted by Characters Book p145

(emphisis mine)

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Originally Posted by Molokh (Post 568365)

I can't imagine someone with Semi-Aquatic ever willing to learn Aquabatics. It will be a skill with a built-in penalty for its main use! Read carefully: You suffer skill penalties under water, yet move at 1/5 on the ground too! Now, if there was a way to suffer skill penalties on land instead of underwater (I once asked for such a swap's legality in a thread), that would be another matter.

This is a good point. Semi-aquatic makes me think of seals and the like... they are disadvangaged on land not in water. I can't think but that the quote above is wrong in the italiced text...

(and yes, I'm resurrecting an old question as I come back around to it, sorry all)

Re: Aquabatics Prerequisites

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Originally Posted by nerdvana (Post 803925)

Heh… doing a little revival of my own :)

I’m OK with ignoring that bit from the text of No Legs. It makes sense to me to allow the swapping of penalties for Semi-Aquatic (penalties that would normally apply in water instead apply on land)… or perhaps reduced penalties in both environments.

Re: Aquabatics Prerequisites

Given that people with the swimming skill can apparently use aquabatics, I'm not seeing how taking standard skill penalties in the water is going to completely discourage a creature with substantially stronger aquatic tendencies.