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Icelander 02-21-2008 05:44 PM

Re: GURPS Dungeon Fantasy 3 now available!
 
'tis mine, though I know not why.

I've read it and didn't find a single thing I found useful. Multiclassing rules? In GURPS? And the reason why we can't just buy some of the abilities of a different template?

The racial templates were... well, racial templates for Dungeon Crawling. Simple, direct and could have been whipped up for any player who wanted one in about 1-2 minute each. Don't get me wrong, I do believe in getting game designers to do my dirty work so I can focus on more fun stuff, but the point is that all of these templates fail to simulate the races in question well enough for me to bother with them. I want more detail in templates, not less. The only GURPS books with templates that I've found satisfactorily in the least was the 3e Special Ops and maybe a couple of Hans' work in 4e.

I loved the advice on running dungeon crawls in installments 1 and 2. I didn't find anything useful in the short postscript for advancement here. Plain vanilla we could have done ourselves.

Where were the complex Advantage sets set up to simulate various high-level abilities? They could have been here, but instead we get Two-Weapon Fighting which turns out to be Dual-Weapon Attack at maximum level + the Off-Hand Weapon Fighting Perk. With enough knowledge to run even a simple game, we knew that. I want someone to do the math and write-out for a Powers-style Meteor Swarm (because GURPS magic doesn't have anything like it), Sense Secret Doors (Dungeon Fantasy style), Stonecunning, Wall of Force/Iron/Stone. I can do all of that, but it requires some time and math, whereas Two-Weapon Fighting doesn't.



The only thing I did enjoy was the writing style and light-hearted approach.

dravenloft 02-21-2008 05:54 PM

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w00t!!!! Loving the DF series! Downloaded #3 w/in 19min of its release!
Have now the tools I need to truly enjoy the dungeon Z is planning. I shall be a Nymph Swashbuckler/<something magical>.

And this has much help potential for getting some characters that I like that are unfun for being AD&D characters and me no likey AD&D combat, so it's convertin' time!!

Ok, random excitement partially caused by sugar rush ended. I now return you to regularly scheduled thread.

Many praises to almighty Kromm for it's writing and the mighty SJ for its publication.

Lonewulf 02-21-2008 05:55 PM

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Icelander, that was a very scathing review. While I feel that you may have ruined this for me before I ever actually read the supplement, I do have to admit that at least your points were logical and explained well... >.>

Just want to say that before I strangle you for ruining it for me before I even read it.

demonsbane 02-21-2008 06:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewulf
(...) Just want to say that before I strangle you for ruining it for me before I even read it.

I remain unaffected and happy. I think DF 3 remains in line with what I expected.

dravenloft 02-21-2008 06:21 PM

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Maybe we should burn the heretic? Just a little? Maybe only around the edges? Maybe we'll get CP for it :D
(sorry Icelander. I'm in a weird mood)

demonsbane 02-21-2008 06:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dravenloft
Maybe we should burn the heretic? Just a little? Maybe only around the edges? Maybe we'll get CP for it :D
(sorry Icelander. I'm in a weird mood)

The first one. I'm working in a Powers-style Meteor Swarm for that... just give me time ;P

LOL

Icelander 02-21-2008 06:32 PM

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Before you lot start banging flints and looking for good fa--ots for the fire, let me say that I'm sure the book is useful to someone. Someone entirely new to GURPS might get use from it, for example, and my room-mate, who is trying to learn the rules, might try to use it to run a simple Dungeon Crawl.

But I didn't see anything in DF:3 I could use, unlike the first two installments. Hence my disappointment.

dravenloft 02-21-2008 06:35 PM

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hmmmm.... perhaps we should drop the burning charges and reduce them to light torture until The Light is seen?

demonsbane 02-21-2008 06:42 PM

Re: GURPS Dungeon Fantasy 3 now available!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Turhan's Bey Company
Excellent. Will probably pick this up over the weekend.

Beware: it contains small parts (p. 8)! You are warned.

dravenloft 02-21-2008 06:44 PM

Re: GURPS Dungeon Fantasy 3 now available!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by demonsbane
Beware: it contains small parts (p. 8)! You are warned.

It's Tiny Tools not small parts. I'm on pg8 right now... well... Z is. I'm impatiently waiting for threads to be posted in that I'm keeping up with.


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