Re: Examples of 4e Combat
 

Lots of responses!

Yeah, about the only reason I didn't add a Retreat to every defense was to keep it a little simpler to start off with, being the 'first' example of Melee.

Fair nits to pick - I'll clarify a bit. (I've purposely used as many optional rules from Basic as I can get my hands on, but it is a good idea to clearly label them such).

Oops - rats. Hopefully that's the only place I did that, but I'll have to check 'em all. (EDIT: it's not, I've already found others)

Not definite on the halving and modifiers, hopefully someone else can chime in on that - you can definitely Retreat while Prone though. (B377)

Good idea - I'll add a footnote.

Right again - I didn't bother putting it in, since the skill capped at 9, but you're right, the more info the better.

Um - cuz he's a berserker? Yeah, that's it - it's not because I didn't feel like making a new graphic at the time lol. I may not change it, but if I don't I'll at least add a note about it to the text pointing out it's sub-par tactics.

Excellent point - fix incoming.

This one I think is correct - "Note that Arthur can not Parry as he is Grappling with both hands; he can let go with one or both hands as a free action, but only on his turn (B370-B371)." If I'm reading B370 correctly, letting go of one or both hands is only a free action on your turn; later, in Turn Six, Arthur does let go with one hand, on his turn, so that he can Parry Zach's next attack(s).

Good to hear Maz. Just trying to do my part to make easing new players into GURPS as easy as possible!

Re: Examples of 4e Combat
 

All of the corrections/clarifications mentioned in the post above have been made.

I also lowered Arthur's Parry in Melee Three, Turn Three by -4, as he is trying to Parry a Morningstar (Flail, B274).

Re: Examples of 4e Combat
 

Hehe it's a fair point. It's not really important. It's one of the points that only matters when people really start going into strategic combat. So Just leave it. :)



Oh right, seems like you are right.

Yeah, GURPS can seem a bit overwhelming for new players, so this is a great tool.

Re: Examples of 4e Combat
 

I didn't have time to look at the Range combat examples yesterday. But now that I had I have a few comments to those as well:

Ranged Combat 1.
Turn Seven. Zach's roll against Knockdown/Stunning should be at -5 as it is a major wound to the vitals (p.420).


Ranged Combat 2.
Turn 1. As noted on p.412 Scopes are variable unless otherwise noted. Meaning that he would get +1 from the scope on the first turn, +2 on turn 2 and +3 on turn 3.
So it would be:
Turn 1: 6+1 = +7
Turn 2: +2 = +9
Turn 3: +2 = +11
The result is the same but as the book clearly states that Variable is the default assumption I think it's better include that in your example.


"Zach's HP are reduced to -110 (and he has a shock penalty of -4)"
LoL, nice touch, hehehe.

You could include a single line or two about what the result would have been had Arthur missed his attack roll by 1 (hitting the torso). Just to emphasize the difference between a headshot and a hit against an armoured torso.


Ranged Combat 3.
Turn 3. When Zach fires his last shots at Arthur he should gain an additional -2 from Arthur being prone.

Re: Examples of 4e Combat
 

I'm still enjoying the combat examples and have already sent one of my players to look at Mook's site.

I think I have another nit, but this time I'm not sure I'm right. In Close Cbt Example #3, Green suffers -4 shock due to Red's first turn attacks and therefore has the shock penalty during his first action (Ready (broadsword)). However, Green is still listed as having the same shock penalty during his second turn action (Ready (knife)). My understanding is that the shock from turn #1 should go away before Green's 2nd turn action.

-- The Bearded One

Re: Examples of 4e Combat
 

You are right. also later on:


In Turn 3. Arthur makes a retreating parry with his knife and gets +3 thanks to his retreat. He should only get +1 as a knife is not a fencing weapon. Only fencing parries gets +3, normal parries only get +1. Arthur would be much better off making a retreating dodge.


When Arthur then takes 9 damage to vitals this is a major wound against vitals, so he should roll knockdown/stunning at -5.

Re: Examples of 4e Combat
 

In Melee 2, Turn 2 Arthur Green suffers shock penalty (Zach waited and hit successfully).
Then, on Turn 3 Arthur is penalized again (for that same hit).

I guess the shock should not affect him on Turn 3 anymore?

-Cursed

Re: Examples of 4e Combat
 

Damn, I always forget that one - fixed.

Actually, I think I was mistaken on Scopes when I was writing them that way - scroll back to posts #81 and #83 in this thread for more.

That'll make a great Ranged Four or Five. : )

Good catch - fixed.

Absolutely right - fixed. (Glad to hear the site is useful too!)

Fixed, and fixed.

Thanks Cursed - fixed.

Thanks again all for taking the time to read these over - I'm beginning to think I got more wrong than right!

Re: Examples of 4e Combat
 

Hi, since I'm a noob regarding combat, i'd like to ask you one thing.
The description of deceptive attack says, that you have a penalty to your skill, when you make that attack. So could you point me out to the rule that says if your parrying is unaffected by your deceptive attack?

thx in advance.

Re: Examples of 4e Combat
 

Your Active Defences are unaffected by your own Deceptive Attacks. The Active Defences of your opponents suffer a -1 for every -2 penalty you take on your own attack.

I'm not sure that there's a page reference for this, it's just that there's nothing in the description of Deceptive Attack to suggest that your defences should suffer.