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Mental_Myopia 10-07-2007 05:17 AM

Bovine Intervention in Single Monster Combat (Cthulhu)
 
In a Munchkin Cthulhu game, a player is facing a single monster in combat. Another player throws down Bovine Intervention to kill the monster so that no Level can be gained. In Bovine Intervention's text, it states "Treasure is gained only if reamaining monster(s) are defeated." The argument was made that since there are no remaining monster(s) to defeat, then Treasure cannot be gained from the monster that Bovine Intervention destroyed. Is that a correct interpretation of the card?

Thanks!

Andrew Hackard 10-07-2007 06:52 AM

Re: Bovine Intervention in Single Monster Combat (Cthulhu)
 
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Originally Posted by Mental_Myopia
In a Munchkin Cthulhu game, a player is facing a single monster in combat. Another player throws down Bovine Intervention to kill the monster so that no Level can be gained. In Bovine Intervention's text, it states "Treasure is gained only if reamaining monster(s) are defeated." The argument was made that since there are no remaining monster(s) to defeat, then Treasure cannot be gained from the monster that Bovine Intervention destroyed. Is that a correct interpretation of the card?

No. Because all remaining monsters (i.e., none) were defeated, the munchkin gets the treasure for the single monster he beat.

During playtest, we once used Bovine Intervention to drop Cowthulhu on top of, yes, Cowthulhu. It was decided that the Munchkiniverse narrowly avoided being pulled through a Klein milk jug and turned inside out.

RevBob 10-07-2007 10:05 AM

Re: Bovine Intervention in Single Monster Combat (Cthulhu)
 
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Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard
During playtest, we once used Bovine Intervention to drop Cowthulhu on top of, yes, Cowthulhu. It was decided that the Munchkiniverse narrowly avoided being pulled through a Klein milk jug and turned inside out.

...which would have been udderly disastrous!

(GD&R)

MunchkinMan 10-07-2007 10:48 AM

Re: Bovine Intervention in Single Monster Combat (Cthulhu)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mental_Myopia
In a Munchkin Cthulhu game, a player is facing a single monster in combat. Another player throws down Bovine Intervention to kill the monster so that no Level can be gained. In Bovine Intervention's text, it states "Treasure is gained only if reamaining monster(s) are defeated." The argument was made that since there are no remaining monster(s) to defeat, then Treasure cannot be gained from the monster that Bovine Intervention destroyed. Is that a correct interpretation of the card?

Not in the least.

This has actually been asked before, concerning other cards that refer to Treasure only being gained after defeating other Monsters, and the answer remains the same: If there are no remaining Monsters, then you get the Treasure because the phrase implies that you get the Treasure if no monsters remain. If there are remaining Monsters, you have to defeat them to get any Treasure (as per the rules).

Mental_Myopia 10-07-2007 12:27 PM

Re: Bovine Intervention in Single Monster Combat (Cthulhu)
 
Thanks!
Unfortunately, I couldn't find this point in the FAQs or Clarifications during the game. :(

EarthStone 10-10-2007 06:44 PM

Re: Bovine Intervention in Single Monster Combat (Cthulhu)
 
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Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard
During playtest, we once used Bovine Intervention to drop Cowthulhu on top of, yes, Cowthulhu. It was decided that the Munchkiniverse narrowly avoided being pulled through a Klein milk jug and turned inside out.

Heck, that happened during the first demo I ran of it!

It happened to a player who has been cursed with fighting Great Cthulhu every time he'd played the game. (in the tournament I ran a couple months ago, he got stuck fighting it twice in one game!) He'd just mentioned that fact and was in the midst of wondering if he'd also get stuck fighting Cowthulhu when he kicked open the door and... Poof there it was facing him. It was with great glee that he whipped Bovine Intervention out of his hand onto Cowthulhu's head. The shouts of amazement and laughter were heard thoughout the store. ... which reminds me I'm intending to give him an EiP pin for that accomplishment next time I run a demo...

Mental_Myopia 10-11-2007 12:47 AM

Re: Bovine Intervention in Single Monster Combat (Cthulhu)
 
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Originally Posted by EarthStone
... which reminds me I'm intending to give him an EiP pin for that accomplishment next time I run a demo...

What's an EiP pin?

MIB2826 10-11-2007 04:13 AM

Re: Bovine Intervention in Single Monster Combat (Cthulhu)
 
In my humble opinion Cowthulhu is omnipotent and omnipresent. Therefore he can be anywhere at any time, and do anything.

And if I can regularly trip over my own legs, Cowthulhu can certainly fall on his own head.

Progmode 10-11-2007 06:13 AM

Re: Bovine Intervention in Single Monster Combat (Cthulhu)
 
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Originally Posted by Mental_Myopia
What's an EiP pin?

Eye in Pyramid (i.e. the SJ Games Logo).

Example

morleydotes 10-11-2007 08:56 AM

Re: Bovine Intervention in Single Monster Combat (Cthulhu)
 
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Originally Posted by MIB2826
In my humble opinion Cowthulhu is omnipotent and omnipresent. Therefore he can be anywhere at any time, and do anything.

Kinda like them other fellers... Thor, Odin, Atlas, Hera, Jupiter, Some Euro MIB's....

Pat


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