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kmunoz 11-20-2016 08:53 PM
Re: Is a 5th Edition coming soon?
 
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Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 2059053)
Kromm said that is more compatible with 4th edition than with 3eR, but also called it "4.5".
Did he explicitly call it that, or (as I recall) did he say that a person could call it that if they really wanted to?

Everything we've heard about DFRPG suggests that the changes are isolated and specific (changes to certain advantages, adjustments to individual spells) or reductive (eliminating/simplifying certain complex rules, which has the effect of making the complex versions "optional" from the perspective of Basic, in the same way that tactical combat is optional). None of it seems much more significant than a series of house rules designed to work in a DF setting. Nothing nearly as major as (off the top of my head examples) removing PD or altering the skill cost progression, both of which had knock-on effects that radically altered large chunks of the game.

Refplace 11-20-2016 10:51 PM
Re: Is a 5th Edition coming soon? [Answer: NO, it isn't!]
 
Yeah I think it was you could sorty of call it 4.58 if you wanted to and IIRC he said it was like 90% or maybe 95% comatbile.

lachimba 11-21-2016 02:29 AM
Re: Is a 5th Edition coming soon? [Answer: NO, it isn't!]
 
Another reason to update will be when the tech in high-tech, Ultratech and even the Basic Set is completely out of sync with the present day.

I make no predictions, but I suppose that puts a practical cap on 4th edition.

Flyndaran 11-21-2016 03:09 AM
Re: Is a 5th Edition coming soon? [Answer: NO, it isn't!]
 
Nah. Then it just becomes "retro" tech like Traveller, Lensman, etc.

lachimba 11-21-2016 03:51 AM
Re: Is a 5th Edition coming soon? [Answer: NO, it isn't!]
 
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Originally Posted by Flyndaran (Post 2059172)
Nah. Then it just becomes "retro" tech like Traveller, Lensman, etc.
I don't think it works that way. Not with the Basic Set at least. Not when people say "hey, why aren't there rules for [common household device in 20XX] in the Basic Set?" or "what tech level are we now? we have [device], but its not in the GURPS tech tree and I haven't used a [2004 item] in XX years"

At the very least you've got to do a revision.


Also, its less of a problem, but prices get a bit wonky too. Especially if things become very available or very scarce over next X years

PK 11-21-2016 11:03 AM
Re: Is a 5th Edition coming soon?
 
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Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 2059053)
It seems like there's a little bit of contradiction in the explanations of exactly how 4e compatible the DFRPG actually is. Kromm said that is more compatible with 4th edition than 4e is with 3eR, but also called it "4.5".
I wouldn't read too much into that. Personally, I'd say it's more like "4.1" if anything -- GURPS/4E with a few things cleaned up for the sake of clarity and game balance (in the context of the dungeon fantasy genre).

Buzzardo 11-21-2016 11:49 AM
Re: Is a 5th Edition coming soon?
 
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Originally Posted by PK (Post 2059255)
I wouldn't read too much into that. Personally, I'd say it's more like "4.1" if anything -- GURPS/4E with a few things cleaned up for the sake of clarity and game balance (in the context of the dungeon fantasy genre).
I think of it as "4 (variant)". That is, I perceive it to be 4th edition with variations to support Dungeon Fantasy. At some point (I hope), we might have another 4 (variant) for a space campaign or monster hunters or other good things. :)

Phil Masters 11-21-2016 12:28 PM
Re: Is a 5th Edition coming soon?
 
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Originally Posted by Buzzardo (Post 2059265)
I think of it as "4 (variant)". That is, I perceive it to be 4th edition with variations to support Dungeon Fantasy. At some point (I hope), we might have another 4 (variant) for a space campaign or monster hunters or other good things.
The first 4 (variant) is due out next month, actually.

RogerBW 11-21-2016 05:31 PM
Re: Is a 5th Edition coming soon?
 
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Originally Posted by Phil Masters (Post 2059277)
The first 4 (variant) is due out next month, actually.
Assuming you don't count Changing Times, which granted doesn't include the core rules.

Refplace 11-21-2016 06:21 PM
Re: Is a 5th Edition coming soon?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzardo (Post 2059265)
I think of it as "4 (variant)". That is, I perceive it to be 4th edition with variations to support Dungeon Fantasy. At some point (I hope), we might have another 4 (variant) for a space campaign or monster hunters or other good things. :)
There we go.
DFRPG using GURPS Edition 4^DF and GURPS Discworld using 4^DW


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