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Kitty_Of_Doom 06-28-2007 10:38 AM

Re: [G4e] Meals: Survival Vs. Foraging Rules
 
So maybe we can get some inspiration from the margin of failure results...

Stripe 06-28-2007 11:39 PM

Re: [G4e] Meals: Survival Vs. Foraging Rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruno
I'd personally say "Once per day for safety only, no food. Further rolls to forrage for food." You don't necessarily have to roll three times a day for food, but obviously if you only roll once, you're likely to only find one meal, and only if you get successful.

Yeah, that's how I'm reading them too.

Thanks to all who replied. Some good ideas in here! :)

Kyle Aaron 06-28-2007 11:47 PM

Re: [G4e] Meals: Survival Vs. Foraging Rules
 
Regarding Survival skill and what the damage of a failed roll means, there was a thread on that a while back.

Captain Joy 07-22-2009 01:24 PM

Re: [G4e] Meals: Survival Vs. Foraging Rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty_Of_Doom (Post 419065)
I found an old gurps doc about Gurps Survival that worked similary in the way that the result depended on the MarginOfSuccess/Failure listed for each environment.

Kudos to who ever wrote it!

...in all environments:
Lose 2 HT each day for not drinking.
Lose 3 HT each day after 4 days of not eating.

B426 says:
  • Lose 4 FP and 1 HT each day for not drinking
  • Lose 3 FP each day for not eating
So after you've run out of FP, it would look like:
  • Lose 5 HT each day for not drinking
  • Lose 3 HT each day for not eating
I'm thinking that the rules are overly harsh regarding not eating. The RAW implies that not eating for 15 days would kill most people. I've heard that most people could last twice that long (assuming they are drinking water). What say ye?

I'm thinking that the rules for not drinking assume that they are eating. The RAW implies lasting a week without drinking is not unusual. My impression is that if you were denied food and water, you're pretty much guaranteed to be dead in a week. What say ye?

Ragitsu 07-22-2009 02:49 PM

Re: [G4e] Meals: Survival Vs. Foraging Rules
 
Water? For sure.

Food? Not necessarily.

Ultraviolet 07-23-2009 03:12 AM

Re: [G4e] Meals: Survival Vs. Foraging Rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Joy (Post 823710)
B426 says:
  • Lose 4 FP and 1 HT each day for not drinking
  • Lose 3 FP each day for not eating
So after you've run out of FP, it would look like:
  • Lose 5 HT each day for not drinking
  • Lose 3 HT each day for not eating
I'm thinking that the rules are overly harsh regarding not eating. The RAW implies that not eating for 15 days would kill most people. I've heard that most people could last twice that long (assuming they are drinking water). What say ye?

I'm thinking that the rules for not drinking assume that they are eating. The RAW implies lasting a week without drinking is not unusual. My impression is that if you were denied food and water, you're pretty much guaranteed to be dead in a week. What say ye?


What I remember hearing, is that with ample water, you could propably last a month without food. Much would depend on your amount of fat, which the body can burn off. But I think this number reflects non-activity, and surely being bedridden for the latter half of the period. Of GURPS rules imply some sort of light activity, one could halve the period to 15 days.

Flyndaran 07-23-2009 03:53 AM

Re: [G4e] Meals: Survival Vs. Foraging Rules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruno (Post 419063)
Or one of the many other things that people bumbling around in the woods do to themselves - you could just have a terrible day filled with all the minor miseries of life in the wilderness - start off by stumbling and skinning your knees, blunder into a thorn bush later on and get scratched up, get bitten by a snake or squirrel or something when you step on it by accident, have a bad encounter with a porcupine, and finally try to clean up after going to the bathroom with poison ivy leaves or some other plant that attacks by contact.

Goodness, I would call that a minonr critical failure. Failure just a failure.
What about me and my family, we're not allergic to poison ivy/oak and have thick skin?


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