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pzmcgwire 07-24-2024 10:15 AM

Re: Min ST penalties
 
Typically when you round down, a 0.5 or half becomes zero.

The reason I'm asking this is in the quick reference cards released for Warlock Knight, there are NPCs whose strength is 1 less than required for their weapons and damage is normal, so is there errata needed or is it correct? DX is also not listed as being modified explicitly for attacks either.

DouglasCole 07-24-2024 10:28 AM

Re: Min ST penalties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pzmcgwire (Post 2533089)
Typically when you round down, a 0.5 or half becomes zero.

The reason I'm asking this is in the quick reference cards released for Warlock Knight, there are NPCs whose strength is 1 less than required for their weapons and damage is normal, so is there errata needed or is it correct? DX is also not listed as being modified explicitly for attacks either.

This would be better as a communication directly to Gaming Ballistic via Backerkit or email rather than starting a thread on the forums. It's probably simply a mistake.

pzmcgwire 07-24-2024 10:43 AM

Re: Min ST penalties
 
Late pledges can't post on backerkit and I have sent you and David Pulver emails about this via the forum messaging system earlier this week on Monday, 7/22/2024.

DouglasCole 07-24-2024 11:05 AM

Re: Min ST penalties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pzmcgwire (Post 2533094)
Late pledges can't post on backerkit and I have sent you and David Pulver emails about this via the forum messaging system earlier this week on Monday, 7/22/2024.

I certainly never received anything - just looked. I’ll check with David but we’ve been in contact all week and he hasn’t mentioned anything.

I’ll bring up the late pledge thing on the Backerkit discord. I’d expect all pledged backers at any time to be able to use the system(s).

pzmcgwire 07-24-2024 11:14 AM

Re: Min ST penalties
 
I sent you an email directly to the gmail address backerkit support gave me as well, and I had sent the direct email via the SJ Games forum system on Monday. Possibly those emails are out-dated?

DouglasCole 07-24-2024 11:23 AM

Re: Min ST penalties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pzmcgwire (Post 2533101)
I sent you an email directly to the gmail address backerkit support gave me as well, and I had sent the direct email via the SJ Games forum system on Monday. Possibly those emails are out-dated?

Odd. Let me check with Backerkit. One of those should have reached me. Which NPC or set of NPCs has the issue?

timm meyers 07-24-2024 10:55 PM

Re: Min ST penalties
 
ITL p.107 "...your DX is -1 for each ST point you lack, and the damage done is -1 for each 2 ST (round damage down) that you lack."

It is fairly clear to me that this sentence says it is -1 dam. per 2 ST.
A ST-9 warrior swinging a ST-12 broadsword (normally a 2d6 damage) does 2d-1 damage NOT 2d-2

hcobb 07-25-2024 03:42 AM

Re: Min ST penalties
 
The result is that a ST 11, DX 13 character with a Broadsword does 2d-1 at adjDX 12 for the swing and is therefore "worse" than the ST 12, DX 12 character who does 2d at adjDX 12.

As Molly says (https://www.hcobb.com/tft/Molly.html) "ST dumping never pays!"

pzmcgwire 07-25-2024 09:05 AM

Re: Min ST penalties
 
TFT is about tradeoffs so a ST11 DX13 character who chooses a broadsword vs a shortsword should have some potential benefit, more damage vs lower chance to hit.

If the interpretation that damage is -1 for 1 less ST and DX -1, then the player might as well use a shortsword with no dx penalty and equal damage.

The phrase round down supports that interpretation in that fractions are dropped and 1 less ST results in no damage reduction and only -1 DX.

Steve Plambeck 07-25-2024 07:05 PM

Re: Min ST penalties
 
^^^^ THAT ^^^^ Perfectly put.


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