Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway?
 

I was correcting a fallacious argument, not advocating any particular point of view.

It is a common mistake to believe that believing a given argument for a conclusion to be wrong automatically means that one favours the opposite conclusion.

Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway?
 

We can go two ways now: we can establish that no human being will ever meet the criteria to be named Prophet of KROMM, or we can establish a rule that says "Everyone is a Prophet of KROMM", much like Discordianism makes everyone a pope/mome.

Debunking other people's arguments just for the sake of it generally is seen as belligrent behaviour. Nice try, by the way. If I didn't know better, I could just be fooled into thinking that you wouldn't mind, Icelander.

Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway?
 

Just as well, as I do not aspire to any position within the Holy Mother Thread, as I have clearly stated before:

This also is Icelander's testimony, when the Forumites sent to him a deputation of Priests and Inquisitors from The Holy Mother Thread to ask him who he was.

He avowed--he did not conceal the truth, but avowed, "I am not KROMM."

"What then?" they inquired; "are you the High Priest?" "I am not," he said. "Are you the Prophet?" "No," he answered.

So they pressed the question. "Who are you?" they said--"that we may take an answer to those who sent us. What account do you give of yourself?"

"I am the voice," he replied, "of one crying aloud, 'Make straight the Lord's way in the Forums,' fulfilling the words of the Prophet Isaiah."

They were Pharisees who had been sent.

Again they questioned him. "Why then do you baptise," they said, "if you are neither KROMM nor High Priest nor the Prophet?"

"I baptise with posts only," Icelander answered, "but in your midst stands One whom you do not know--

He who is to come after me, and whose sandal-strap I am not worthy to unfasten."

All hail Lord KROMM!

Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway?
 

Really?

I see it as my duty to oppose wooly thinking, fallacious arguments and false logic wheresoever I might encounter them.

I should think people would be grateful to learn where they made a mistake. They can then do better next time.

Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway?
 

That's the main problem. Your concept of fallacy is personally biased, as everyone's is, to include certain lines of thinking as inherently faulty. In that way, also due to your way of arguing, no one will be grateful. Your fault is to see your point of view as the objective point, which is neither true nor can ever be true for any being.

Or, to put it in a more Zen way, also to please Our Lord KROMM, I'll just give one advice.

Do not pull the grass to make it larger, let it grow. Do it like the distillers who put the bottle around the pear blossom to have a full size pear in their schnapps. In the end, everything will work out fine.

Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway?
 

I have to elaborate upon my former statement. Of course, there is one being without error: Alas, Our Lord KROMM surely is without fault, how else could He be the Great Line Editor?

Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway?
 

KROMM is one who is dedicated to rooting out all fault in the Work of Steve Jackson Games (which I shall hereafter refer to as the Holy Product, unless I forget). To do this he must stand vigilant against fault in others and himself, and this is why, if he was ever faulty, he has now become faultless.

Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway?
 

Let's talk deductive reasoning.

The existence of a supreme truth is not necessary for it to be possible to recognise faulty arguments. Logic and mathematics are human constructs and therefore do not depend on any ultimate truths. If the rules are followed, the conclusions will be correct for the context.

Therefore, a properly formed logical argument will be recognised as properly formed regardless of personal bias and a logical fallacy seen as such.

Your personal view of the number 4 does not influence your ability to see that 2+3=4 is false.

The same goes for the argument:

KROMM dislikes XY.
XY is made up of the words X and Y.
Therefore KROMM dislikes Y.

The conclusion is not necessitated from the premises, ergo the argument is not logical.

I really don't mean to sound belligerent or hostile, and in fact, I'm used to discussions with people who are able to admit that they are not infallible and are pleased when their mistakes are pointed out. They might be chargrined at having made the mistake, but no adult would ever dream of blaming another person for that. It's better to look stupid once and be able to better next time than to look stupid for all time.

A wise man once said: "Everyone is entitled to his own opinions, but not his own facts." ;)

Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway?
 

It all comes down to the way the truth is conveyed to them.

Insh'KROMM!

Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway?
 

Clearly KROMM is faultless and incapable of committing errors. Clearly he is the GURPS Line Editor. And clearly the GURPS books contain errors. This may seem like a paradox, but it's really not. The errors are there on purpose.

They are there to teach us to be sharp of eye and quick of e-mail. They are there to teach us not to expect perfection in this world. They are there to teach us patience with those who share this world with us, for not all can be as flawless as KROMM.

So, brethren, cease your bickering and join me in a prayer to the Great Line Editor.