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corwyn 12-31-2023 01:54 PM

Dragon Heresy
 
So how much of this book is fluff? Is it worth getting if I don't care about 5e mechanics?

DouglasCole 12-31-2023 02:05 PM

Re: Dragon Heresy
 
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Originally Posted by corwyn (Post 2511463)
So how much of this book is fluff? Is it worth getting if I don't care about 5e mechanics?

I'd hazard 20-25% of the book is completely distinct from the 5E mechanics. There was a lot of material that was written and eventually cut when I realized a first-timer wouldn't be able to crowdfund 800 pages of written material in three volumes.

Some of the DH material that would be "fluff" is embedded in the "crunch" that is mechanics, but (for example) most if not all of the monsters are in the Nordlond Bestiary. and that was 250 of the 800 pages if not more. Delvers to Grow and the DFRPG core books take the place of a lot of what would be PHB type stuff, and that leaves about 200-300 pages (25-35%) that would be campaign world and fluff even of the original material.

So more fluff was cut than crunch to get from my original work down to the "introductory set."

corwyn 12-31-2023 02:15 PM

Re: Dragon Heresy
 
Okay, slight redirect then.

How much of the fluff in the book isn't in the DF books already published. A lot of the Nordlond campaign books have a fair bit of background as well - HoJ, Rosgarth, Forest's End.

Any chance what's left will find it's way into DF?

DouglasCole 12-31-2023 02:30 PM

Re: Dragon Heresy
 
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Originally Posted by corwyn (Post 2511467)
Okay, slight redirect then.

How much of the fluff in the book isn't in the DF books already published. A lot of the Nordlond campaign books have a fair bit of background as well - HoJ, Rosgarth, Forest's End.

Any chance what's left will find it's way into DF?

Last answer first: High chance. I've occasionally been asked for a Nordlond sourcebook proper. There are a few things I might wish to do with the setting and I have a few ideas that I need to check if feasible. If so ... a true setting sourcebook would make a lot of sense.

There's a bit of the history of the place, which I might like to change if I brought that material to Nordlond DFRPG instead of Torengar Dragon Heresy. There's MORE on culture and behavior in the DFRPG material than made it into Dragon Heresy, but an expansion of divinity beyond the domain heads might be of use to some.

I hate to say "don't," but honestly most of the published material leans very heavily on the changed mechanics to get from 5E to Dragon Heresy. The DH was originally intended to be a short PDF that said "tweak these things" but I rapidly realized that would be stopping game play every few moments to convert: easier to give it the fantasy heartbreaker treatment.

So the published DH material is very mechanics-heavy, and honestly I'd rather "blow up" the DFRPG world and turn it into one or more islands in my Infinite Archipelago concept than continue the "vast continent, most of which is only vaguely defined" trend started in Dragon Heresy.

corwyn 12-31-2023 02:40 PM

Re: Dragon Heresy
 
Thanks for the honesty. I'm just finishing up a Nordlond campaign, having used up all of the high-end content. I'll be revisiting it at some point with a lower point game but I think I can wait on this for now.

BTW, any chance of a sequel to Rosgarth? It's a bit cliffhangery.

DouglasCole 12-31-2023 04:02 PM

Re: Dragon Heresy
 
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Originally Posted by corwyn (Post 2511469)
Thanks for the honesty. I'm just finishing up a Nordlond campaign, having used up all of the high-end content. I'll be revisiting it at some point with a lower point game but I think I can wait on this for now.

BTW, any chance of a sequel to Rosgarth? It's a bit cliffhangery.

Need to talk to Kyle on that one. He definitely had a sequel in mind, but it's been a very, very rough 2023 for backer counts for ANY project, and DFRPG are costly to produce due to full-color that I don't really want to give up (I think DFRPG/GURPS fans should get good-looking stuff, because if I were on the buying side, I'd want good looking stuff).

We'll see. I expect my 2023 fiscal report to say nothing good, and I know I ended the year on a down note from a payroll and working capital perspective. Doing a full-on adventure that's high point total - which is what a Rosgarth direct sequel would be - would be rough going.

That being said ... I can think of a few ways to go there that would maybe allow some nifty things to happen. So no promises, but I do have some ideas.

corwyn 12-31-2023 06:43 PM

Re: Dragon Heresy
 
One more thing. Will Nightmare fuel/Shields Up be available on W23?

AOTA 12-31-2023 06:58 PM

Re: Dragon Heresy
 
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Originally Posted by DouglasCole (Post 2511468)
Last answer first: High chance. I've occasionally been asked for a Nordlond sourcebook proper. There are a few things I might wish to do with the setting and I have a few ideas that I need to check if feasible. If so ... a true setting sourcebook would make a lot of sense.

I would love to see a Nordlond sourcebook. It is a fun world.

corwyn 12-31-2023 07:33 PM

Re: Dragon Heresy
 
I'm very happy to see a gurps setting that I can demo gurps/DF with.

DouglasCole 01-01-2024 12:19 PM

Re: Dragon Heresy
 
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Originally Posted by corwyn (Post 2511489)
One more thing. Will Nightmare fuel/Shields Up be available on W23?

Eventually, and likely sooner rather than later in PDF at least. When last we spoke about warehousing, SJGames was wary about any extra space taken up by not-SJGames stuff, so physical product there seems like a discussion to have.

restlessgriffin 03-28-2024 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AOTA (Post 2511491)
I would love to see a Nordlond sourcebook. It is a fun world.

Agreed. I'd love an expanded setting, especially if it moves beyond just Norse/viking inspired setting,

DouglasCole 03-28-2024 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by restlessgriffin (Post 2520054)
Agreed. I'd love an expanded setting, especially if it moves beyond just Norse/viking inspired setting,

This is part my my "infinite archipelago" effort

restlessgriffin 03-28-2024 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DouglasCole (Post 2520064)
This is part my my "infinite archipelago" effort

Will Isles of Sedra be converted to GURPS DFRPG? Full color?

DouglasCole 03-28-2024 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by restlessgriffin (Post 2520073)
Will Isles of Sedra be converted to GURPS DFRPG? Full color?

yes. probably full color; the recent solo conversion seemed to go well, so starting out with "this is where we ended up last time, so we'll START there this time" makes some sense, though that means the funding goal will start higher.

But yeah, Sedra, full color. I might do this contemporaneously with the Elazar book (the neighboring island) or I might stretch them out sequentially. Not sure.


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