Originally Posted by DHood64 (Post 2508374)

Using the latest rules, if a wizard casts say 3 hex fire, but before it would naturally expire, they want to dismiss/cancel the spell. Can the wizard dismiss it early in some way?

Originally Posted by hcobb (Post 2508375)

For creations: "at any time their master wants them to vanish" -ITL 137

Originally Posted by DHood64 (Post 2508395)

I like it conceptually - but that's under the sub-header of "Summoned Creatures" - not sure if that applies to any other creation type spell.

Originally Posted by Axly Suregrip (Post 2508769)

I allow wizards to end all creation spells at will. Yes, it is only images and illusions that have this documented but by extension it is reasonable. Fire spell allows for a lot more control in that the wizard may create smaller useful (not dangerous) fires.

This is how I see it:

The shadow, wall or fire is a magical creation that exists strictly because the wizard made it and is still tied to it because he may recast it from beyond creation spell range. Since he is able to extend its existence he should be able to end it.

The fire, wall, shadows do last 12 turns if the wizard should die.

I would be fine playing with a GM that did this either way. As long as done consistently.

Originally Posted by Shostak (Post 2508399)

Illusions and Images may be dispelled at any time their caster wishes (ITL 139), but Fire, Shadow, and Wall cannot.

Originally Posted by catopower (Post 2518499)

While I'm not able to clarify rules like this, I really like the idea that a Wizard can create something that he or should could possibly regret doing and not be able to undo it. Seems like it could potentially lead to more interesting situations.

Originally Posted by Shostak (Post 2518553)

There is nothing to clarify--the rules are explicit that wizard can create certain things that last for 12 turns, regardles of how inconvenient they might become in that time: Fire, Wall, and Shadow.

Originally Posted by catopower (Post 2518598)

I'm not arguing with you. I'm merely commenting on how I like how this rule can play out. Sorry if this out of line.

Originally Posted by hcobb (Post 2518715)

If you do allow dismissal, does this cover partial dismissal?
"Leave these two edge hexes of my 3-hex fire and dismiss the middle hex!"

Originally Posted by hcobb (Post 2518715)

If you do allow dismissal, does this cover partial dismissal?
"Leave these two edge hexes of my 3-hex fire and dismiss the middle hex!"

Originally Posted by Axly Suregrip (Post 2518726)

yes, I allow individual hexes to be dismiss.

Originally Posted by Axly Suregrip (Post 2508769)

Candy Crush said : I allow wizards to end all creation spells at will. Yes, it is only images and illusions that have this documented but by extension it is reasonable. Fire spell allows for a lot more control in that the wizard may create smaller useful (not dangerous) fires.

This is how I see it:

The shadow, wall or fire is a magical creation that exists strictly because the wizard made it and is still tied to it because he may recast it from beyond creation spell range. Since he is able to extend its existence he should be able to end it.

The fire, wall, shadows do last 12 turns if the wizard should die.

I would be fine playing with a GM that did this either way. As long as done consistently.

Originally Posted by Axly Suregrip (Post 2521465)

It is also worth noting that Destroy Creation spell removes 1 hex of a creation spell, like Fire, regardless of the original size.

Given the above, I will stick with allowing wizards to dismiss any of the fire/walls/shadow hexes they created without dismissing the whole thing.