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Alden Loveshade 08-17-2024 09:20 AM

Re: Warriors of Haunden (IC)
 
OCC

Here's a couple things.

1) The thread for Warriors of Haunden (not IC) seems to have vanished! What happened?

2) In Dicelog, I noticed Stripes rolled "Stunning spell." I believe we as players are restricted to things in GURPS Basic, while the Stun spell is in GURPS: Magic. But it's certainly possible we are restricted and the NPCs aren't; that's the GM's call. I've definitely run games where an NPC had something the PCs didn't!

But I bring it up because I'm confused on the order of events. And I certainly admit some of that was likely due to me misreading something. But hopefully I clarified where I'm coming from in my previous post here. If not, let me know!

ADDITION: I just reported to staff that the thread for Warriors of Haunden has disappeared

ADDITION 2: Thread not gone; probably an issue with my settings. I reported to staff I was wrong.

ericthered 08-20-2024 10:17 AM

Re: Warriors of Haunden (IC)
 
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Originally Posted by Kalzazz (Post 2534966)
Cassandra goes have Soldier, so unless otherwise directed will stay with the other archers and mimic them.

"Awww! Poor Thad, I can't believe those jerks killed you! Don't worry, I'll avenge you, uh, by killing you again?"

She turns to her new friends "Try not to get hit by the really big skeleton with the axe, he can like cut you in half in one blow"

She points at wounded spear skeleton "See the arrow wound there? I did that!"

"Uh. They had warriors and sorcerers to. I don't see them"

No one seems to understand Cassandra. They move closer to the enemy, quickly. The enemy moves back, but only slowly.


Once they get within an 100 yards, the other archers get ready to shoot.

ericthered 08-20-2024 10:33 AM

Re: Warriors of Haunden (IC)
 
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Originally Posted by Alden Loveshade (Post 2535017)
Thanks for the distance numbers. I admit it's still hard for me to picture everything--but that does help!

But I'm still not sure where everyone is. For example, there's Stripes and Anoras being 13 yards from the bedrolls and weapons, and the leading prisoners being 10 yards from the bedrolls and weapons. That could mean the leading prisoners are 23 yards from Anoras. Or it could mean they're 15 yards from Anoras. Or it could mean they're 3 yards from Anoras. Or it could mean something else.

Everyone is orthogonal to each other: its a big T, with Stripes and Anoras on the "Right" branch, "able-bodied" on the left branch, and the prisoners on the "stem", with the bedrolls in the middle.


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I don't want Stripes to have any reason to suspect Anoras until Anoras has one or more armed warriors with her to attack the sorceror. That's unless Stripes is focused on doing something dangerous to someone else. My suspicion is Stripes will wait to see what's happening with the others, and not waste using any magic unless necessary (i.e. for self-protection.)
I think that's were your assumption is wrong: Stripes has magic as advantages (I thought the group was going to do a lot more investigation as to what stripes actually had) and no penalty for spamming them. He's also a sadistic psychopath who enjoys inflicting pain and death, like most scorcerors (magic alters your mind)


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She's already told the Haunden not to attack any Venasir other than Stripes except in self-defense. But she wouldn't want to say her "be loyal' message in Venasir until she sees what happens. (Again, I got confused on the order of events.)
I don't think you're confused about the order, I think you overestimated the ability of the prisoners to move around without being noticed, so the enemy is reacting before you planned on it. And to be fair, that was an absolutely horrible set of rolls not in your favor. (enemy rolled a 5 on per, prisoners rolled a 13 on stealth, and then the guards crushed their surprise rolls, when half of them should have failed)


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Originally Posted by Alden Loveshade (Post 2535106)
2) In Dicelog, I noticed Stripes rolled "Stunning spell." I believe we as players are restricted to things in GURPS Basic, while the Stun spell is in GURPS: Magic. But it's certainly possible we are restricted and the NPCs aren't; that's the GM's call. I've definitely run games where an NPC had something the PCs didn't!

Wings also has this spell and used it extensively against Thad (who had an amulet on and was thus mostly immune). I made mention of it "Can stun with a glance" in my first report on the sorcerers attacking.


I hope this clears your questions up. Feel free to get further clarification.


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ADDITION 2: Thread not gone; probably an issue with my settings. I reported to staff I was wrong.
At the bottom you can control how long of a period to show threads from. Default is a month. I try to post in the OCC threads about that often to keep them at least visible.

Kalzazz 08-20-2024 10:51 AM

Re: Warriors of Haunden (IC)
 
Cassandra is happy to shoot at 100 yards

Alden Loveshade 08-20-2024 12:00 PM

Re: Warriors of Haunden (IC)
 
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Originally Posted by ericthered (Post 2535287)
Everyone is orthogonal to each other: its a big T, with Stripes and Anoras on the "Right" branch, "able-bodied" on the left branch, and the prisoners on the "stem", with the bedrolls in the middle.

Thanks! That definitely helps me picture it.

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Originally Posted by ericthered (Post 2535287)
I think that's were your assumption is wrong: Stripes has magic as advantages (I thought the group was going to do a lot more investigation as to what stripes actually had) and no penalty for spamming them.

Sorry but I'm not sure what "spamming" means here. The only meanings I know are sending a bunch of people messages online that they didn't ask for, or posting a bunch of messages, usually while trying to sell something.

And I admit I don't know how our group could have investigated Stripes. The first reference I saw to Stripes was after we were separated and Thad and Cassandra were both unconscious. That's:

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Originally Posted by ericthered (Post 2523769)
"We left the Haunden prisoners with Stripes. No need to bring them on this raid. We're meeting back up at the sacrifice site. We might need to call them back so we have enough men for the raid."

Then as to "can stun with a glance":

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Originally Posted by ericthered (Post 2535287)
Wings also has this spell and used it extensively against Thad (who had an amulet on and was thus mostly immune). I made mention of it "Can stun with a glance" in my first report on the sorcerers attacking.

Maybe I missed it in my online search. But the only reference I found to "stun" and "glance" was this:

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Originally Posted by ericthered (Post 2528985)
A short while later, ShadowMask arrives. ShadowMask isn't his real name, its what you call the Scorceror who lives in Holidor. This is the monster who killed half your tribe, the most prominent Venasir in all the tales of after the war. He can fling fire, visit dreams, strengthen warriors, craft monsters, lay cursed traps, stun you with a glance, and is supernaturally tough.

You later helpfully corrected that in the Warriors of Haunden thread. You said it was not ShadowMask who had done that, but an earlier sorcerer:

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Originally Posted by ericthered (Post 2528985)
Which means that Shadowmask is NOT the scorceror who drove the tribe off the land....I made a timing error.

And, honestly, even if I knew it was ShadowMask, "stun with a glance" is something I've both done and had done to me in real life.

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Originally Posted by ericthered (Post 2535287)
At the bottom you can control how long of a period to show threads from. Default is a month. I try to post in the OCC threads about that often to keep them at least visible.

Thanks that's it! I looked for the thread a month and two days after the last post.

With what I know now, I will need to go through things again and make sure I'm understanding the sequence of events. If I'm not sure, I'll post a question. If I believe I've got it, I'll post Anoras' planned actions. I'll try to post whichever one some time in the next 10 hours.

Thanks for your patience!

Alden Loveshade 08-20-2024 05:33 PM

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Anoras' plan is to "protect" Stripes as long as a Haunden is not in danger of being attacked by magic. That's until a skilled and armed Haunden gets to her and Stripes. Then the plan is for both of us to attack the sorcerer.

Anoras, with Hidden Lore (Sorcery), apparently has a pretty good idea of what Stripes can do magically. I have almost no idea. (What spells the sorcerer has or is likely to have, how long they take to cast, etc.)

But in case there's something more obscure Anoras might or might not think of, I rolled on the Hidden Lore (Sorcery) sklll (made it by 5. And again, Anoras made Tactics by 6, so feel free to adjust the plan to fit Anoras' roll.)

ericthered 08-21-2024 01:46 PM

Re: Warriors of Haunden (IC)
 
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Originally Posted by Alden Loveshade (Post 2535296)
Sorry but I'm not sure what "spamming" means here. The only meanings I know are sending a bunch of people messages online that they didn't ask for, or posting a bunch of messages, usually while trying to sell something.

That's the reference. "Spamming" in this context means attacking again and again even when it has a very very small chance of succeeding.


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And I admit I don't know how our group could have investigated Stripes. The first reference I saw to Stripes was after we were separated and Thad and Cassandra were both unconscious. That's:
That's when his name first shows up. The presence of a sorcerer(s) with new tricks shows up in the opening post:

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You haven't heard tell of more than one Venasir sorcerer in this region for a long time, let alone 3. Nor have you faced monsters made of bone lurking in rivers. Something new is going on.
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Then as to "can stun with a glance":

Maybe I missed it in my online search. But the only reference I found to "stun" and "glance" was this:
This is from post 22... and apparently I named Shadowmask something else at one point.

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You are unable to stop his coming death, but you can bring back his consciousness*.

Janden: "They have... great powers. Ones ... I have not seen before. One of them ... stuns quickly.... not like Hyruset*. Something... wrong with the birds.... A new mask.... A new Sorcerer.... they took the boys... and girls... rescue.... our youth."

*The local venasir sorcerer, who can stun a warrior as long as they maintain eye contact, but not longer than that.
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And, honestly, even if I knew it was ShadowMask, "stun with a glance" is something I've both done and had done to me in real life.
Hah.


Of course, Players never do what you expect them to, and that's part of the fun. I just hope I'm communicating what I need to.


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Originally Posted by Alden Loveshade (Post 2535322)
Anoras' plan is to "protect" Stripes as long as a Haunden is not in danger of being attacked by magic. That's until a skilled and armed Haunden gets to her and Stripes. Then the plan is for both of us to attack the sorcerer.

That's now: you're the only Haunden with weapons, and stripes is going to attack them next turn.


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Anoras, with Hidden Lore (Sorcery), apparently has a pretty good idea of what Stripes can do magically. I have almost no idea. (What spells the sorcerer has or is likely to have, how long they take to cast, etc.)
I've been mentally paying close attention to what Anoras should have figured out or has observed (I'm going to count things figured out in the battle Thad died, because While Anoras wasn't there, she got to talk about it and observe the results afterwards:
  • He's wearing a lucky amulet (one use of luck, then it breaks)
  • He can throw a fire ball every two seconds, 2d6 burning, the radius is probably 2 yards
  • He can control at least a bird... it seems to require a lot of concentration to do so
  • He can attempt to stun in a contest of wills with normal range penalties. The target must roll will to "snap out of it"
  • He can place the mark and Kill/Sicken/Madden/Track the bearer, but not in combat time
  • Someone on his team can make traps, but not in combat time
  • Statistically speaking, he's got some sort of mystical defense, but that varies by sorcerer: some are unliving, some have mystic DR 3, and some have a vitality reserve (10 or 20, usually)
  • all spells require concentration maneuvers, so can be interrupted by anything that interrupts a concentration maneuver.
Hope that helps, let me know what questions you have

ericthered 08-21-2024 03:21 PM

Re: Warriors of Haunden (IC)
 
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Originally Posted by Kalzazz (Post 2535290)
Cassandra is happy to shoot at 100 yards

Reminder to self about the arrow sequence:
#1) Draw Arrow (can be skipped with fast draw)
#2) Knock Arrow
#3) Fire

OR

#3-5)Aim
#6) Fire


Skill 16 - 10 (range) + 2 (time) + 3 (Acc) +1 (SM)= 12

Cassandra takes five seconds to hit the giant skeleton! She does 6 damage, with becomes 3 injury. The other three archers score two hits, doing a total of 4 injury. The giant skeleton moves back a little faster. The other skeletons move back with it.

Alden Loveshade 08-21-2024 05:25 PM

Re: Warriors of Haunden (IC)
 
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Originally Posted by ericthered (Post 2535378)
Of course, Players never do what you expect them to, and that's part of the fun.

Thanks and I agree it's fun! (Although I do remember a GURPS GM who didn't think so....) And thanks for the info on what Anoras would think Stripes might be able to do.

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Originally Posted by ericthered (Post 2535378)
I just hope I'm communicating what I need to.

I appreciate that and your patience with me. I'm one of those people who sometimes gets the "hard" stuff quickly--and then gets stuck on the "easy" stuff.

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Originally Posted by ericthered (Post 2535378)
That's now: you're the only Haunden with weapons, and stripes is going to attack them next turn.

OK. Then Anoras, looking in Stripes direction to the area behind Stripes (and thus looking away from where the Haunden are), will exclaim, "What's that?" Hopefully Stripes will turn to look, but even if not, Anoras holding the shield for protection, will attack Stripes with the sword. "Has it got me?"

ericthered 08-22-2024 10:44 AM

Re: Warriors of Haunden (IC)
 
Ok, fast talk to distract opponent, and then an attack!


Bare success on the contest.



Stripes turns to look opposite the direction of Anoras, possibly expecting more enemy forces... she strikes.



Is this a typical torso hit? Telegraphed strike since his back is turned? All-out in some way or targeted? This is your one free attack.


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