Disbelieving what you cannot see
 

Does a character who wishes to disbelieve need to see the target of the disbelief? Say a wizard either Summons Myrmidon or creates an Illusion of a myrmadon on the turn after creation uses movement to place the creation behind the enemy and the enemy can't turn to face it. Can the enemy still make an attempt to disbelieve?

Re: Disbelieving what you cannot see
 

My approach is to allow disbelieving an illusion that is not currently in the field of vision so long as it had already been seen by that figure. For example, Volto the wizard sees a myrmidon appear on turn 1. On turn 2, the myrmidon steps into a Shadow hex. Volto can disbelieve the illusion on turn 2, but won't know the result of his action. However, if the illusion was created in the Shadow, Volto would not know that it was there and so could not disbelieve it.

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I'm on the other side... disbelieve is described as a spell that anyone can use so I require the 'disbeliever' to focus on the target of that action. If the illusion is out-of-sight, that focus is broken.

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Fair enough. Special spells, though, which I'd argue Disbelieve must be, sometimes have large areas of effect and that affect things the wizard might not even know are there. One could think of Disbelieve as a low-power version of Dispel Illusions, which does not require visual contact.

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So, sort of like the rule of where a wizard can cast some spells (that is, in the wizard's hex, any adjacent hex, or anywhere in the front hexes, but that eye contact with the target of disbelief must be there?

That does sound like a fair call.

Re: Disbelieving what you cannot see
 

Out of sight, out of mind.
;)

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How does that spell (DISPEL ILLUSIONS) work, I wonder? What's the in-game explanation?

Wizard: Hey brothers, I think I've discovered a dimension of sentient skepticism. I wonder how we could use that? ;)

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Or maybe its the arcane analog of an electromagnetic pulse?

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I would say that one needs to see the illusion in order to disbelieve it (it is option (i) DISBELIEVE. Move one hex or stand still, taking no other action, and attempt to disbelieve one figure.)
However, if the illusion just stabbed him in the back, he 'knows' where it is and I would allow it.

However, an illusion, in order for it to appear real, really should have the other senses represented. That would include sound. Now if the illusion is created around the corner (within sight of the casting wizard), yelling "Hey, you dirty rats" and clanging his shield, would that be possible? If so, could the character disbelieve the "sound" and thus have the illusion unknot (dissolve), never having seen it?

And if that is the case, that could apply to an Image, which cannot be disbelieved.

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Does ITL 106 apply?
"He can cast spells only at figures in these hexes, or in his own or adjacent hexes"