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Anthony 09-08-2023 08:54 PM

Re: How to kill a toxifier
 
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Originally Posted by mburr0003 (Post 2501077)
Why? Because I once had a party with no Affect Spirits, and "enchanted weapons" do not harm toxifiers*.

Sure they do. Toxifiers are diffuse, not incorporeal, so every whack with a sword is 2 wounds.

sjmdw45 09-08-2023 10:33 PM

Re: How to kill a toxifier
 
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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 2501067)
The usual reason would be not knowing the spell or not wanting to bother casting it (a single toxifier isn't worth spending 2 seconds and 4 fatigue). You can also cast Air Jet; a 1 fp casting will average 14 injury (it does 2d damage to vaporous creatures and the toxifier has x2 vulnerability....).

But there's an 83% chance the Toxifier will successfully dodge your Air Jet, assuming it can Retreat. Or it might just straight-up avoid you with its Move 12.

Air Jet really isn't all that good against toxifiers unless you combine it with a control spell.

mburr0003 09-09-2023 04:25 AM

Re: How to kill a toxifier
 
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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 2501079)
Sure they do. Toxifiers are diffuse, not incorporeal, so every whack with a sword is 2 wounds.

No, I mean, "enchanted weapons" don't bypass the toxifier's Diffuse. Only weapons specifically enchanted to Affect Spirits or incorporeal beings. So your Accuracy and Puissance +1 sword at most does 2 damage per whack.

Anthony 09-09-2023 12:04 PM

Re: How to kill a toxifier
 
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Originally Posted by sjmdw45 (Post 2501086)
But there's an 83% chance the Toxifier will successfully dodge your Air Jet, assuming it can Retreat. Or it might just straight-up avoid you with its Move 12.

Toxifiers have no ranged attacks. If it's staying out of reach it's harmless and someone can shoot it with arrows until dead.

sjmdw45 09-09-2023 12:53 PM

Re: How to kill a toxifier
 
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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 2501116)
Toxifiers have no ranged attacks. If it's staying out of reach it's harmless and someone can shoot it with arrows until dead.

Correction: if it's staying out of reach of the guy with Air Jet, it's harmless to the guy with Air Jet. In the common case though where there's more than one character around, it's not harmless to the others unless they are in Fireball Formation with the Air Jet guy.

(Though to be fair, the toxifier's damage is also pretty weak.)

Balor Patch 09-09-2023 11:29 PM

Re: How to kill a toxifier
 
1) "Staying out of reach" is controlled by the PCs. Being good upright people they are all wearing holy symbols, right? The Toxifier has a Dread of blessed objects.

2) Affect Spirits deals with Insubstantial, not Diffuse (unless DFRPG changed that).

sjmdw45 09-09-2023 11:52 PM

Re: How to kill a toxifier
 
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Originally Posted by Balor Patch (Post 2501157)
2) Affect Spirits deals with Insubstantial, not Diffuse (unless DFRPG changed that).

It's a Toxifier-specific rule.

"Notes: Hard to injure due to being Diffuse, but weapons enchanted to affect spirits or insubstantial entities bypass this and do damage normally. Unwilling to negotiate. Truly evil."


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