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JulianLW 07-23-2023 01:21 PM

Re: Video review of Dungeon Fantasy
 
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Originally Posted by WhiteLily (Post 2496237)
If that's what the rule is intending to convey, it needs a re-write. I still am not getting that interpretation upon a careful re-reading of the rule.


Here's what it says on Exploits, page 30. I've added a little rewrite (in bold-face) to make it clearer.

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ALL-OUT ATTACK

Ber-serk-er! Sacrifice all thought of defense to attack a foe using a ready weapon. If making a melee attack, specify one of four options when you choose your maneuver:

Determined: Make one attack at +4 to hit.
Double: Make two attacks against the same foe, if you have two ready weapons (Using Both Hands, p. 36) or one weapon that doesn’t have to be readied after use.
Feint: Make one Feint (above) and then one attack against the same foe. The Feint applies to this attack instead of one you make next turn.
Strong: Make a single attack at normal skill. If you hit, you get +2 to damage – or +1 damage per die, if better.

If you already get two or more attacks, Double and Feint add one extra attack or Feint, respectively, to your output. [All these melee attacks must be melee attacks.]
If making a ranged attack, you simply get +1 to hit.
How's that?

sjmdw45 07-23-2023 04:27 PM

Re: Video review of Dungeon Fantasy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteLily (Post 2496237)
If that's what the rule is intending to convey, it needs a re-write. I still am not getting that interpretation upon a careful re-reading of the rule.

Is this a version issue? In your version of Exploits, what needs to be true before you can select one of the four options for All Out Attack (Determined, Double, Feint, Strong)? In my copy it says it needs to be a melee attack. Does yours not have the word "melee" in that sentence, in italics?

"If making a melee attack, specify one of four options when you choose your maneuver"...

JulianLW 07-23-2023 04:34 PM

Re: Video review of Dungeon Fantasy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjmdw45 (Post 2496260)
Is this a version issue? In your version of Exploits, what needs to be true before you can select one of the four options for All Out Attack (Determined, Double, Feint, Strong)? In my copy it says it needs to be a melee attack. Does yours not have the word "melee" in that sentence, in italics?

"If making a melee attack, specify one of four options when you choose your maneuver"...

The description for All-Out Attack in Exploits is basically a slightly edited version of what appears on page 365 in Basic.

Forgive my snark in the earlier post. I think WhiteLily may have just rolled an 18 on reading comprehension.

WhiteLily 07-23-2023 05:01 PM

Re: Video review of Dungeon Fantasy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JulianLW (Post 2496245)
Here's what it says on Exploits, page 30. I've added a little rewrite (in bold-face) to make it clearer.

How's that?

That would be far more clear.

WhiteLily 07-23-2023 05:02 PM

Re: Video review of Dungeon Fantasy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JulianLW (Post 2496261)
The description for All-Out Attack in Exploits is basically a slightly edited version of what appears on page 365 in Basic.

Forgive my snark in the earlier post. I think WhiteLily may have just rolled an 18 on reading comprehension.

My reading comprehension is fine. My interpretation of the rule remains unchanged after reading what you wrote.

JulianLW 07-23-2023 05:48 PM

Re: Video review of Dungeon Fantasy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteLily (Post 2496224)
Exploits P. 30

All-Out Attack. Double. Make two attacks against the same foe.

I'm not sure what clever place they have hidden the rule that requires these to be melee attacks, but if that is the rule I certainly would have put it right there on P. 30 for clarity.

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Originally Posted by WhiteLily (Post 2496266)
My reading comprehension is fine.

No. It's not.

You should open up your Exploits book to page 30 and re-read the section on All-Out Attack even more carefully than before.

sjmdw45 07-23-2023 05:54 PM

Re: Video review of Dungeon Fantasy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteLily (Post 2496265)
That would be far more clear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteLily (Post 2496266)
My reading comprehension is fine. My interpretation of the rule remains unchanged after reading what you wrote.

Why did you ignore post #12?

In your version of Exploits, what needs to be true before you can select one of the four options for All Out Attack (Determined, Double, Feint, Strong)? In my copy it says it needs to be a melee attack. Does yours not have the word "melee" in that sentence, in italics?

"If making a melee attack, specify one of four options when you choose your maneuver"...

johndallman 07-24-2023 02:35 AM

Re: Video review of Dungeon Fantasy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JulianLW (Post 2496261)
Forgive my snark in the earlier post. I think WhiteLily may have just rolled an 18 on reading comprehension.

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