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BaHalus 10-09-2022 06:52 PM

Duplication and Equipment
 
How can we make a character that duplicates his own clothes and equipment without it being signature gear?

Duplication has a +100% enhancement to duplicate Signature Gear and that is it.

The guy will need to have signature gear clothes and use always the same clothes to avoid generating naked copies?

Couldn't it simply be a Can carry objects like in other advantages? But compared to the +100% for signature gear, the usual values of "Can Carry Objects" seems too cheap.

Maybe I should simply put a Cosmic +50% to use Can Carry Objects with Duplication?

(BTW, wouldn't be better if the signature gear were simply bought one time for each copy, or received some kind of +80% or +100% 'per copy' enhancement on signature gear?)

David Johnston2 10-09-2022 09:07 PM

Re: Duplication and Equipment
 
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Originally Posted by BaHalus (Post 2454966)
How can we make a character that duplicates his own clothes and equipment without it being signature gear?

Link it to a suitably limited Snatcher.

Christopher R. Rice 10-09-2022 11:37 PM

Re: Duplication and Equipment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BaHalus (Post 2454966)
How can we make a character that duplicates his own clothes and equipment without it being signature gear?

Duplication has a +100% enhancement to duplicate Signature Gear and that is it.

The guy will need to have signature gear clothes and use always the same clothes to avoid generating naked copies?

Couldn't it simply be a Can carry objects like in other advantages? But compared to the +100% for signature gear, the usual values of "Can Carry Objects" seems too cheap.

Maybe I should simply put a Cosmic +50% to use Can Carry Objects with Duplication?

(BTW, wouldn't be better if the signature gear were simply bought one time for each copy, or received some kind of +80% or +100% 'per copy' enhancement on signature gear?)

The issue is that you can outfit yourself with the best and then clone it when you clone the rest. I'd probably borrow Equipment from Patron to determine cost.

Fred Brackin 10-10-2022 01:05 AM

Re: Duplication and Equipment
 
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Originally Posted by Christopher R. Rice (Post 2454991)
The issue is that you can outfit yourself with the best and then clone it when you clone the rest. I'd probably borrow Equipment from Patron to determine cost.

Let's try getting a Patron with unusual availability who provides equipment with a small Limitation for "Only duplicates of existing equipment".

Of course if you do this the duplicates vanish but their euipment doesn't.

It'd be so much simpler to use the Enhancemnt from Powers.

Christopher R. Rice 10-10-2022 05:44 AM

Re: Duplication and Equipment
 
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Originally Posted by Fred Brackin (Post 2454996)
Let's try getting a Patron with unusual availability who provides equipment with a small Limitation for "Only duplicates of existing equipment".

Of course if you do this the duplicates vanish but their euipment doesn't.

It'd be so much simpler to use the Enhancemnt from Powers.

No, I mean literally adding the +50% modifier from Patron so your dupes can carry up to Campaign Wealth in gear or +100% if it can exceed it. It would vanish when the dupe does. Otherwise it's too cheap. It's still probably too cheap at 35 points to replicate any and all gear. That's the same cost as Signature Gear and I can wreck a game faster with the former than the latter.

BaHalus 10-10-2022 07:03 AM

Re: Duplication and Equipment
 
Maybe taking the +100% of signature gear +50% cosmic (not only signature gear)? With the Can Carry Objects on top of that to limit how much is duplicated?

There is something anywhere allowing non naked dupes without requiring signature gear clothes?

Anders 10-10-2022 07:43 AM

Re: Duplication and Equipment
 
Either link it to Snatcher or up the Cosmic to +300%. It really is that good.

Anders 10-10-2022 10:23 AM

Re: Duplication and Equipment
 
For +150% I would allow you to create Duplicates with a standardized set of equipment. Nothing snazzy, but better than being naked. Maybe equal to 1/5 the campaign budget limit, and standardized in advance. Linking Duplicate to Gizmo may also work.

Fred Brackin 10-10-2022 10:58 AM

Re: Duplication and Equipment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BaHalus (Post 2455010)
Maybe taking the +100% of signature gear +50% cosmic (not only signature gear)? With the Can Carry Objects on top of that to limit how much is duplicated?

There is something anywhere allowing non naked dupes without requiring signature gear clothes?

I don't think there's anything requiring dupes to be literally naked. In many genres the basic genre assumptions would prevent this if nothing else did.

You start getting into Signature Gear territory when you get to armor and weapons. Or at least maybe "adventure stuff" like climbing gear but "Dupes appear with normal clothing and 2 breath mints in their pockets" isn't even a Perk.

Kalzazz 10-10-2022 11:29 AM

Re: Duplication and Equipment
 
I would think Duplicable should be a C.F. modifier for the equipment itself possibly, or an enchantment

A Sword of Duplication certainly seems possible


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