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kate_unknown 01-25-2022 09:13 PM

GURPS Book List
 
I have been working on a complete list of GURPS books and other supplements for a while now and figured I would share in case anyone was interested.

Book List

It is still a work in progress and may be missing some books, if so let me know!

It has information like copyright date, edition, whether it seems to be PDF only and "Type".

I wouldn't get too hung up on the "type" part as it would be hard to make categories that suit everyone but here is what they mean in the list:
-Basic Set: Book of basic GURPS rules
-Templates: Book of mostly items that can be dragged and dropped into any campaign (spells, NPCs, vehicles, etc)
-Framework: Themed book with generic intent (Space, Magic, Robots, etc)
-Worldbook: Book specific to a setting (Yrth, Rome, Discworld, etc)
-Campaign: Scenarios to play
-Solo Campaign: Choose your own adventure style
-Charts: rules tables or maps
-Fill-able Sheet: Blank Documents to be filled

Let me know what you think!

Alden Loveshade 01-25-2022 11:28 PM

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It's nice that you're doing that; I appreciate your work. One book I see is missing is GURPS Fantasy Folk: Elves by, er, um, me.

lugaid 01-25-2022 11:28 PM

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Still working through it, but I can already see that you missed GURPS Mage: The Ascension, though you did get all three of the other WoD conversions.

lugaid 01-25-2022 11:46 PM

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Some typos and minor corrections:

GURPS Adaptations, not GURPS Adaptions

Nordlond Saga or (properly) Norðlond Saga, not Norolond Saga

The copyright date for GURPS Space: Terradyne is 1991

kate_unknown 01-26-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Alden Loveshade (Post 2413263)
It's nice that you're doing that; I appreciate your work. One book I see is missing is GURPS Fantasy Folk: Elves by, er, um, me.

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Originally Posted by lugaid (Post 2413264)
Still working through it, but I can already see that you missed GURPS Mage: The Ascension, though you did get all three of the other WoD conversions.

Hmm, both of these are showing up when I search for them are you sure they are missing on your end? Please note that they aren't sorted in any particular fashion (just added as I find books). I tried to sort by copyright date but that seems to only show up on my end.

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Originally Posted by lugaid (Post 2413266)
Some typos and minor corrections:

GURPS Adaptations, not GURPS Adaptions

Nordlond Saga or (properly) Norðlond Saga, not Norolond Saga

The copyright date for GURPS Space: Terradyne is 1991

Thank you! I have made the update on my primary spreadsheet for these and will fix them on the google doc once I make some other additions (need to add earlier version of books with second and third editions but no first.)

Alden Loveshade 01-26-2022 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kate_unknown (Post 2413395)
Hmm, both of these are showing up when I search for them are you sure they are missing on your end?....

I had looked for titles using my computer's standard search function. But it appears that won't find any of the titles.

kate_unknown 01-26-2022 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alden Loveshade (Post 2413435)
I had looked for titles using my computer's standard search function. But it appears that won't find any of the titles.

Google Docs can be strange sometimes. I have the book listed on row 536 if you wanted to look at it's entry

It may also be that I use : between titles and subtitles so if you searched "Fantasy Folk Elves" it wouldn't come up since it is entered as "Fantasy Folk: Elves"

Not another shrubbery 01-26-2022 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alden Loveshade (Post 2413435)
I had looked for titles using my computer's standard search function. But it appears that won't find any of the titles.

I found it with a Ctrl-F search on "elves", but Google Docs' Ctrl-H will work.

Alden Loveshade 01-26-2022 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kate_unknown (Post 2413437)
Google Docs can be strange sometimes. I have the book listed on row 536 if you wanted to look at it's entry

I see it on 536--thanks!

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Originally Posted by kate_unknown (Post 2413437)
It may also be that I use : between titles and subtitles so if you searched "Fantasy Folk Elves" it wouldn't come up since it is entered as "Fantasy Folk: Elves"

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Originally Posted by Not another shrubbery (Post 2413441)
I found it with a Ctrl-F search on "elves", but Google Docs' Ctrl-H will work.

I had actually searched for "elves," but can't search that document using Ctrl-F; however, Ctrl-H did work. Thanks!

As a journalist who deals with confidential information, I use security that isn't always compatible with companies that collect and sell your data and other information.

lugaid 01-27-2022 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kate_unknown (Post 2413395)
Hmm, both of these are showing up when I search for them are you sure they are missing on your end? Please note that they aren't sorted in any particular fashion (just added as I find books). I tried to sort by copyright date but that seems to only show up on my end.

I had sorted them by date, but did not see GURPS Mage: The Ascension anywhere near its publication date of 1994. Perhaps I just missed it.

lugaid 01-27-2022 06:26 AM

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Related typos:

Nordlond Saga: The Citadel of Nordvorn, not "Norovorn"

Nordlond Saga: Nordlondr Folk, not "Norolondr" (again, the eth is more appropriate, but d is acceptable)

GURPS GM's Screen, not "Screene"

Also, found GURPS Mage: The Ascension in your list. The date should be 1994.

While I'm at it, GURPS Lensman should be dated 1993.

GURPS The Prisoner, surprisingly, does not have a copyright date (that I could find). From internal clues (in its bibliography, it mentions a book published in 1988 and a book scheduled to be published in Fall of 1989), it seems that it was published in 1988 or 1989, probably the latter.

Not another shrubbery 01-27-2022 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lugaid (Post 2413522)
I had sorted them by date, but did not see GURPS Mage: The Ascension anywhere near its publication date of 1994. Perhaps I just missed it.

There are about 30 entries where the publishing date was unknown or uncertain. Those, including GURPS MtA, were all down at the bottom of the document. [MtA's date was listed as "Pre 1996?"]

lugaid 01-27-2022 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Not another shrubbery (Post 2413527)
There are about 30 entries where the publishing date was unknown or uncertain. Those, including GURPS MtA, were all down at the bottom of the document. [MtA's date was listed as "Pre 1996?"]

Yup, found it.

Þorkell 01-27-2022 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by lugaid (Post 2413526)
Related typos:

Nordlond Saga: The Citadel of Nordvorn, not "Norovorn"

Nordlond Saga: Nordlondr Folk, not "Norolondr" (again, the eth is more appropriate, but d is acceptable)

For reference, eth is this letter ð, or Ð in upper case.

kate_unknown 01-27-2022 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lugaid (Post 2413526)
Related typos:

Nordlond Saga: The Citadel of Nordvorn, not "Norovorn"

Nordlond Saga: Nordlondr Folk, not "Norolondr" (again, the eth is more appropriate, but d is acceptable)

GURPS GM's Screen, not "Screene"

Also, found GURPS Mage: The Ascension in your list. The date should be 1994.

While I'm at it, GURPS Lensman should be dated 1993.

GURPS The Prisoner, surprisingly, does not have a copyright date (that I could find). From internal clues (in its bibliography, it mentions a book published in 1988 and a book scheduled to be published in Fall of 1989), it seems that it was published in 1988 or 1989, probably the latter.

Again thank you so much for the help! I have a few books listed as "pre 1996?" because I couldn't find a copyright date but I was reasonably sure they were before 3rd edition revised was released.

I have made the updates to my master list and will move them to Google after I make some other updates. I will list The Prisoner as 1989? for now, I am going to see if I can find an ISBN later because that usually gives a copyright date.

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Originally Posted by Þorkell (Post 2413542)
For reference, eth is this letter ð, or Ð in upper case.

I am going to leave them as regular d, just for ease of searching for them. Not sure why I had them all as "o" before.

lugaid 01-27-2022 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kate_unknown (Post 2413563)
I will list The Prisoner as 1989? for now, I am going to see if I can find an ISBN later because that usually gives a copyright date.

ISBN 1-55634-161-X, which is listed on several sites as copyright 1989.

kate_unknown 01-29-2022 01:55 PM

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Okay made a few updates, it seems like the Nordlond books aren't released yet as far as I can tell, also added the unreleased Pyramid 4 series to the magazines tab. Got some physical first editions in the mail so added their info too!

I was wondering if anyone knows if GURPS Dark Places was ever actually released? I know it is listed here on the official site, but this doesn't give an ISBN number, PDF or even say physical out of stock. I searched sold on Ebay and it has never been sold on Ebay (though that doesn't necessarily mean anything since GURPS Bili the Axe: Up Harzburk! was first sold on Ebay only last month)

Just seems strange because I can't find any references to it outside of SJG and a Wikipedia book-list (that probably just got the title from SJG).

johndallman 01-29-2022 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kate_unknown (Post 2414003)
I was wondering if anyone knows if GURPS Dark Places was ever actually released?

I don't think so. It is not listed on SJ Games' "Everything We've Ever Released" page, which is normally accurate.

Not another shrubbery 01-29-2022 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by johndallman (Post 2414037)
I don't think so. It is not listed on SJ Games' "Everything We've Ever Released" page, which is normally accurate.

Dunno the details, but it was a planned book sometime in the early 00s (IIRC). Something happened, it got pulled from the pipeline and now it's just a title that never saw daylight.

johndallman 01-29-2022 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Not another shrubbery (Post 2414040)
Dunno the details, but it was a planned book sometime in the early 00s (IIRC).

The cover style and authorship on it are consistent with that. I have thousands of messages from the old sjgames.gurps NNTP forum still in my newsreader, and Dark Places gets mentioned a few time in that in 2004-06 as stalled, but maybe not forever.

kate_unknown 01-29-2022 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by johndallman (Post 2414037)
I don't think so. It is not listed on SJ Games' "Everything We've Ever Released" page, which is normally accurate.

That is an awesome list and very handy but one thing it does not include are any books that were included inside sets. For example it lists the Dungeon Fantasy GM Screen, but doesn't directly mention the two books that came with the GM Screen "Character Creation Cheat Sheet" and "Delvers to Go!" Other than that a great list, I tried searching for some of the stuff I thought it might not have and they were all there.

Dark Places was a part of the Summer of Horror done in the early 2000s so it is possible it was bundled? Probably not though, more likely not released.

kate_unknown 01-29-2022 05:08 PM

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Sorry for the double post, but I wanted this to be its own post.

I was interested in this quote on page 3 of Man to Man
Quote:

Man to Man is the combat system for GURPS — the Generic Universal
RolePlaying System. We've decided to release Man to Man separately, in
advance of the full system, for three reasons:
(1) Our fans have been waiting years for GURPS. It seemed like time to
give them something.
And it makes me wonder what was released about GURPS as teasers before 1985. The first issue of the Roleplayer magazine released just have Man to Man, so sadly Man to Man is the first documented reference of GURPS I have.

I have a few ideas of ways they might have mentioned GURPS in the early 80s:
- Inserts into board games
- Other magazines/newsletters released by SJG
- Advertisements in other magazines or products, maybe not even SJG
- Online Bulletin boards

I'd love to see the first mention of GURPS or any mention from before 1985, but I haven't had an luck looking so far.

SJG had 4 zines published before-hand: Autoduel Quarterly, Space Gamer, Fantasy Gamer, and Journal of the Travellers' Aid Society. I don't currently checking the covers none of them list GURPS as a highlight article.Though issue 4 of Fantasy Gamer does list "The Solimar Quest: Generic Fantasy Adventure"... probably unrelated, but I may have to get the PDF just to be sure.

One funny thing to note, #28 of Space Gamer's cover was reused for GURPS Fantasy's first edition.

johndallman 01-29-2022 05:26 PM

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GURPS is mentioned in Fantasy Gamer #4, (Feb/Mar 1984), and also in #5. It is also mentioned in Space Gamer #70 (July/August 1984), and all the subsequent issues to the end of the run at #76.

Fred Brackin 01-29-2022 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kate_unknown (Post 2414060)

Dark Places was a part of the Summer of Horror done in the early 2000s so it is possible it was bundled? Probably not though, more likely not released.

The Dark Places manuscript imploded just after the start of the playtest was announced. I think that PTB decided that work could not be finished on it on any practical schedule. Definitely never published.

Are there any other phantasmal books on the list like Gurps India or Black Magic? Sorry i haven't checked but this was gaming day and I'm running behind.

kate_unknown 01-30-2022 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by johndallman (Post 2414067)
GURPS is mentioned in Fantasy Gamer #4, (Feb/Mar 1984), and also in #5. It is also mentioned in Space Gamer #70 (July/August 1984), and all the subsequent issues to the end of the run at #76.

I looked at Space Gamer #70 and did find mention of GURPS! Interestingly the section is titled "GURPS again" so there must be an earlier mention, I will have to comb through and see what I can find.

Just remembered that before they released GURPS they thought that would be a working title and that it would be called something else later, so it possible some references may not specifically say GURPS.

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Originally Posted by Fred Brackin (Post 2414097)
The Dark Places manuscript imploded just after the start of the playtest was announced. I think that PTB decided that work could not be finished on it on any practical schedule. Definitely never published.

Are there any other phantasmal books on the list like Gurps India or Black Magic? Sorry i haven't checked but this was gaming day and I'm running behind.

No, I didn't put any books on the list unless I could at least find a cover. If a book mentioned on a random 3rd party website just lead to a dead end I didn't add it (Many turned out to be homebrews or other things of that nature which are also not on the list).

The only other book I can think of right now that is listed but might not exist is "GURPS Prime Directive books for 3e?" I listed this because both SJG and other sources claimed that 3rd edition books exists for GURPS Prime Directive, but I couldn't actually find any sold proof. The 4e books were released so close to 2004 that it could also be a GURPS Dragons situation where the books are considered both 3e and 4e at the same time.

I should also mention that this list doesn't cover any releases in other languages. According to Wikipedia there are some interesting Japanese exclusive GURPS books, but since I can't read Japanese trying to sort through information on them would be a nightmare.

Fred Brackin 01-30-2022 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kate_unknown (Post 2414130)
The only other book I can think of right now that is listed but might not exist is "GURPS Prime Directive books for 3e?

I should also mention that this list doesn't cover any releases in other languages. According to Wikipedia there are some interesting Japanese exclusive GURPS books, but since I can't read Japanese trying to sort through information on them would be a nightmare.

I believe I have a Prime Directive book for 3e and that the 4e versions are minor updates.

I have talked online with other people who said that they had read the Japanese books (in Japanese of course) but I've never heard of any translations. Among other problems with researching these would be that they are quite old now.

lugaid 01-31-2022 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kate_unknown (Post 2414130)
I looked at Space Gamer #70 and did find mention of GURPS! Interestingly the section is titled "GURPS again" so there must be an earlier mention, I will have to comb through and see what I can find.

Just remembered that before they released GURPS they thought that would be a working title and that it would be called something else later, so it possible some references may not specifically say GURPS.

Yeah, very early on it was the "Great Unnamed Role Playing System", and when they decided to keep "GURPS" as the name because people had gotten used to talking about it by that title, they made the new interpretation as a backronym from that. Or so it was presented at the time.

kate_unknown 02-06-2022 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred Brackin (Post 2414157)
I believe I have a Prime Directive book for 3e and that the 4e versions are minor updates.

I have talked online with other people who said that they had read the Japanese books (in Japanese of course) but I've never heard of any translations. Among other problems with researching these would be that they are quite old now.

If you do have it can you let me know the copyright date. and is it just the Prime Directive book or are any of the supplementary books also 3e? (romulans, federation, klingons).

Yeah it would be cool to read the Japanese books but too much of an investment, Japanese is hard!

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Originally Posted by lugaid (Post 2414410)
Yeah, very early on it was the "Great Unnamed Role Playing System", and when they decided to keep "GURPS" as the name because people had gotten used to talking about it by that title, they made the new interpretation as a backronym from that. Or so it was presented at the time.

Interesting I will have to add it to search terms for checking the magazines. Thanks!

Fred Brackin 02-06-2022 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kate_unknown (Post 2415361)
If you do have it can you let me know the copyright date. and is it just the Prime Directive book or are any of the supplementary books also 3e? (romulans, federation, klingons).

I know I still have it (and one supplement) but I found it disappointing which means it's not in the "active" section and I've lost track of where it is.


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