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Note the important thing here isn't that whatever hoops one goes through be correct, but that they be something the public will accept enough not to raise a really big stink over it. |
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In the real world, courts normally confine themselves to the least potentially controversial argument that yields the desired result and a court would thus merely confirm Ted Cruz's eligibility without addressing the issue for any other potential candidates that do not share his exact circumstances of birth. Influenced by ASBs, however, judges might be inclined to use the case to establish a precedent on the constitutionality of the natural-born clause or at least insert a statement into the obiter dicta that could be used to justify the view that the discrimination between two classes of citizenship was incompatible with the Constitution as it was currently understood. See Perkins v. Elg for a case where the court specifically addressed the eligibility for the presidency in a case where they had no pressing legal reason to do so. In any case, while I agree that the best interpretation of the intended meaning of the phrase 'natural-born citizen' at the time of the framing of the Constitution would relate it to the 'natural liege' of English Common Law, making foreign-born children born to citizens 'natural-born' in this context, the idea that courts always rule according to perfect jurisprudence bears little resemblance to the real world. Even without Alien Space Bats, there is always a non-zero chance that the result of a court case will be what the judge thinks should be the law, regardless of whether it is. In any case, the authority of Congress to define the term 'natural-born citizen' seems fairly accepted by legal scholars, given that Congress did do so in 1790 and then, by implication, in 1795. Neither Naturalization Act was ever successfully challenged on the basis that Congress did not have the power to decide what 'natural-born citizen' meant. Congress explicitly rejecting any substantive legal difference between 'natural-born' and other citizens, justified on the basis of the Enforcement Clause of the 14th Amendment, would be explosively controversial among a narrow subset of the population, i.e. constitutional scholars. How controversial it would, in practice, be among the general voter, I do not know. Would it prevent any citizen benefiting from this change from having a chance at a presidential run in 2020? Even an alt-Schwarzenegger with Charisma 5 and Politics and Public Speaking at 20+ (before Reaction modifiers)? Pretty much a basic precondition for this change point is that in the years since alt-Schwarzenegger's Governatorship of California, he has become the most popular, respected and influential figure in US politics, all the more so because he has more-or-less successfully* managed to navigate a statesmanlike middle ground only available to someone not currently holding political office. Without the obstacle of needing a potentially controversial judicial decision, legal statue or constitutional amendment to be eligible, any political analyst would have predicted that should he have run, alt-Schwarzenegger was by far the most likely candidate to win in 2016 and would win in a historic landslide in 2020. In my campaign, because that obstacle has still not been fully eliminated by the end of 2018, he is still regarded as unlikely to run for 2020. However, a decade of ceaseless efforts by Alien Space Bats on his behalf has created a situation where it is just barely conceivable that by the time the legal eligibility requirement for 2020 becomes inescapable, alt-Schwarzenegger will fulfill it, somehow. I'm looking for what would seem the most likely method of that change coming through. And the Alien Space Bats would absolutely have numerous simultaneous schemes ongoing, where the ideal case would see a constitutional amendment ratified long before alt-Schwarzenegger secured the Republican nomination, but in the less than ideal case that this is not successful, they'd accept a controversial Congressional statue or even an unlikely and shocking verdict by the Supreme Court widely considered to be judicial overreach.** *With his Alien Space Bat enhanced uber-Politics skill and the stratospheric effective Propaganda that his team can muster for favored causes. **But ideally focusing public ire more on the less well-known figure used as a stalking horse in the test case, rather than alt-Schwarzenegger. Obviously, there would be those who would nevertheless by influenced by what they perceived as an illegitimate candidacy, but the ASBs would be hoping that paranormally-enhanced alt-Schwarzenegger would still be so much better at campaigning than other candidates that this would merely reduce what would have been a landslide victory to a narrow one. |
Constitutional Amendment Before 2016
I have an idea for how things might have gone. We might suppose that before the 2016 elections, alt-Schwarzenegger managed to gain enough support in Congress to pass a constitutional amendment allowing naturalized citizens to be eligible for President, as long as they fulfilled some kind of residency requirement*, but that this Amendment was not ratified in time to allow him to run in 2016, allowing the Trump vs. Hillary contest that we know from our world.
At the end of 2018, there are still several (and possibly, numerous) states that have not ratified the Amendment. As a consequence, the majority view is that alt-Schwarzenegger will not run in 2020, but an increasing number of voters views this as a bad thing. However, rivals for the Presidency tend to be in favor of anything that prevents such a very popular candidate from challenging them in 2020, so there is a lot of opposition from their camps to ratification. Because ratification is so difficult and unlikely to succeed, the Alien Space Bats are also pursuing numerous other routes to their goal, including lobbying for legislation and covertly supporting a series of court cases designed to challenge the existing 'natural-born citizen' clause. The Equal Opportunity to Govern movement is spearheaded by numerous younger politicians than alt-Schwarzenegger, who has never yet publicly stated an intention to run for President, although he has made qualified and carefully-curated statements in support of removing any vestige of second-class citizens in US law, as long as this is done legally and democratically. Now, things I'm looking for are: a) Suggestions for what might be the most serious hold-out states in the ratification process. b) Suggestions for suitable supporters of an Equal Opportunity to Govern Amendment among real politicians, celebrities and influential people. This should to at least some extent be a bipartisan movement; with Republican supporters of politicians like Ted Cruz, Marco Ruhbio and Bobby Jindal, as well as moderate/centrist/left-wing Republicans who want alt-Schwarzenegger to run and both Democrats and independents who support it for idealogical reasons and/or because they have a favored candidate who faces criticism or challenges because of perceived or real ineligibility. c) Suggestions for court cases that might have occurred between 2010 to 2019 related to this movement, their results and any details that PCs should hear about or know. Also, crucially, what controversial court cases related to this subject are dominating the headlines at the end of 2018 and beginning of 2019? *If 14 years is not perceived as enough, the 21 years proposed in early drafts of the Constitution (before the 'natural-born citizen' clause was inserted) could be chosen. |
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Which is why I've proposed Ted Cruz as a secret ally of the Alien Space Bats. Also, probably at least a potential Vice-Presidential candidate for alt-Schwarzenegger. |
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