Re: Judo is a striking skill
 

Now, to me, the uFAQ doesn't actually go against Judo replacing DX strikes because the general statement only leans against it, and the 'in particular' that elucidates further actually talks about cases where specific other skills are mentioned. Here there are no other skills mentioned, so I think we revert back to the initial state: Judo can sub for any DX roll in close combat except drawing weapons or drop a shield (or based on the uFAQ, where other specific skills are mentioned as subbing for DX).

Re: Judo is a striking skill
 

I brush it off because it's really not an argument, it's appealing to assumed authority. You and others assume that its lack of mention as some sort of evidence that contradicts very clear statement in a rulebook.

I've already mentioned early in the talk that I am calling it a striking skill because you can use it's SL to deliver strikes. These strikes are still DX-strikes, they just use SL of Judo as somebody mentioned before in the thread.

It's a non-standard option that is not universally useful, that's why you don't see it being mentioned in templates and Kromm posts which aren't always aimed at hyper-optimization.

Half of the thread consists not of actual debunking of the original statement, but emotional statements of "It cant be right!" and "Well, it's not mentioned anywhere else, it cant be right!". By mere fact that this is the first time it's brought up on these forums, it means this topic is obscure - thus of course it'd have no mention in Kromm posts, something I am trying to solicit.

Now, if all you can provide to this discussion is "You dont wanna have a fair discussion", please reconsider your position or don't discuss it.

Re: Judo is a striking skill
 

It's not like we're saying "Joe Blow" said it. Kromm is the authority that wrote the book and is paid to answers questions in an official capacity, and to make sure that authors follow his interpretations of the rules in all the official publications. If GURPS has an authority at all, he's it. So when he interprets a rule to say "That's not how it works" then that's not how it's supposed to work.

Re: Judo is a striking skill
 

And there's where the argument falls apart. Kromm DID NOT YET STATE that this isn't an option, you assume that because he didn't that it isn't.

Hence appeal to assumed authority. You imagine that this is what Kromm would say on the topic. Which is utterly useless. Either we're talking about the rule, or we're waiting for Kromm to reply.

We can't sit here and make imaginary Kromm rulings.

Re: Judo is a striking skill
 

Again, are you not seeing my earlier post?

Direct quote of Kromm: "The line is drawn when strikes (punches, kicks, shoves, slams, etc.) or equipment (readying, dropping, or using) get involved."

Re: Judo is a striking skill
 

Yes, I did miss it. I suppose that is the end of that.

Re: Judo is a striking skill
 

It looks like both Fix and Ryan are missing my post.

Re: Judo is a striking skill
 

I saw your post, but didnt understand context of it until i read the FAQ. I am torn on your interpretation and statement of faq saying that it excludes strikes.

How do we reconcile the two?

Re: Judo is a striking skill
 

I saw it, I just didn't think you were referring to the same part of the uFAQ as I was, given I thought "the line is drawn when strikes (punches, kicks, shoves, slams, etc.) get involved" was pretty unambiguous.

Re: Judo is a striking skill
 

My post explained why it was important to read further, to the 'in particular' statement that follows that.