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RBasler 04-22-2019 09:58 PM

Pike Axe
 
OK, here's a question that has been bugging me for years: Exactly what is a "Pike axe"? I've checked the references in my library (including G.C Stone), I've exercised my Google-Fu, but I am coming up with a blank (well, not exactly blank: Google redirects to "Halberd.) Pikes were pikes, and when you've got something that long and skinny, adding extra weight at the tip for something like an axe blade is generally a bad idea.
There was the "Pole Axe", which was generally a longer, more axe-like halberd-ish weapon, The "Pick Axe", which is a tool, and the rather handy "Poll Axe", which was a shorter (~6" overall) halberd-ish weapon with a pronounced top spike and often had a broad hammer-head opposite the axe blade, and was usually used for armored single combat. CQB the the tin-can crowd.
What did Steve Jackson have in mind when he wrote "Pike Axe"?

larsdangly 04-22-2019 10:44 PM

Re: Pike Axe
 
It's the thing that occupies the ST 15 slot in the pole weapon list.

Seriously though; you are right that 'pike axe' isn't a super-helpful on ramp to the minutia of medieval pole arm nomenclature. If you've ever seen a good sized collection of these weapons you'll realize they mostly had broad design elements in common but in detail were so wildly diverse that it's hard to imagine describing them with the couple of names the game uses to cover these sorts of weapons. If you were to pick a few names that suggest more common weapons, you'd maybe include halberd, glaive, polaxe, bec de corbin (or pole hammer). But then as you think about it you'd be leaning toward voulges and forks of every description. And then your head would explode. I don't think it's terribly important which name is used for each of these (though I do think the list should have a couple more, at least one at every ST score from 12-16).

RBasler 04-22-2019 11:10 PM

Re: Pike Axe
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92_TKngfYFQ

Lindybeige on polearm nomenclature. :)

larsdangly 04-25-2019 12:17 PM

Re: Pike Axe
 
I think I'd use my time machine to kill Hitler, but on my way back I'd do your thing too!

Anaraxes 04-25-2019 12:58 PM

Re: Pike Axe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RBasler (Post 2257819)
Lindybeige on polearm nomenclature. :)

Or the OOTS reference.

JLV 04-26-2019 12:08 AM

Re: Pike Axe
 
Love me some Order of the Stick!

FireHorse 04-26-2019 02:55 AM

Re: Pike Axe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by larsdangly (Post 2258410)
I think I'd use my time machine to kill Hitler, but on my way back I'd do your thing too!

Really? But if there was no World War II, then…

No, wait, never mind. I just glimpsed the future, foresaw the 812-page long argument about Time Travel: Risks & Consequences (as well as my own permanent ban for Catastrophic Thread Hijacking), and I think I'll pass on that one after all.

KevinJ 04-29-2019 01:39 PM

Re: Pike Axe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RBasler (Post 2257807)
OK, here's a question that has been bugging me for years: Exactly what is a "Pike axe"? I've checked the references in my library (including G.C Stone), I've exercised my Google-Fu, but I am coming up with a blank (well, not exactly blank: Google redirects to "Halberd.) Pikes were pikes, and when you've got something that long and skinny, adding extra weight at the tip for something like an axe blade is generally a bad idea.
There was the "Pole Axe", which was generally a longer, more axe-like halberd-ish weapon, The "Pick Axe", which is a tool, and the rather handy "Poll Axe", which was a shorter (~6" overall) halberd-ish weapon with a pronounced top spike and often had a broad hammer-head opposite the axe blade, and was usually used for armored single combat. CQB the the tin-can crowd.
What did Steve Jackson have in mind when he wrote "Pike Axe"?

Yet you are fine with Mechanician and Physicer instead of Mechanic and Physician. You should have heard how Steve explained Sha-ken vs Shuriken to me back in 1982.

hcobb 04-29-2019 02:01 PM

Re: Pike Axe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinJ (Post 2259262)
Yet you are fine with Mechanician and Physicer instead of Mechanic and Physician. You should have heard how Steve explained Sha-ken vs Shuriken to me back in 1982.

You need to use shaken to not stir up a hornet's nest of darts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaken...huriken/shaken

KevinJ 04-29-2019 03:13 PM

Re: Pike Axe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hcobb (Post 2259269)
You need to use shaken to not stir up a hornet's nest of darts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaken...huriken/shaken

Hey now, don't bring Darts of the Hornets nest into this discussion...

Pike Axe is just another 'close but no cigar' name for a class of weapons, not a specific historical weapon, hence the Cheese Shop parody. There are plenty of these throughout the game.


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