[MA] [LT] Dueling Buckler and Shield-Hand Knife
This video shows a man wielding a dueling buckler and a knife with the same hand. From what I googled about this man he seems fairly controversial, so I wanted to ask the people here if it's an actual setup that has been used in history.
In GURPS terms, he'd be suffering -2 to use both skills, plus -2 off hand penalty to Knife skill. There's a perk to get rid of the off hand penalty but not for shield-hand wielding so he'd be at least at -2 to both skills. On the other hand, those skills a Easy so if he had both at DX+2 [4] he'd still be able ot use them at DX. He'd have -1 to Block compared to wielding only the buckler, but it gives him the option to stab with the knife, use some armed grappling technique and an extra parry in a pinch. So it doesn't seem to be all bad. Would a custom combat perk based on Rule Exemption to get rid of shield-hand weapon penalty to this specific setup (dueling buckler + large knife) be believable or at least balanced? Edit: On another video he does something similar but with the knife and a katar. This seems much less useful as it doesn't bring Block to the table, but if someone insisted doing something similar in GURPS, how would it be treated? Could it just use the same rules as the shield-hand weapon and give -2 penalty to use both weapons? Also, what would be the GURPS equivalent of Pesh-kabz? It looks like a Large Knife with swing cut and thrust imp, but the article mentions it's also an armor piercer like Rondel Dagger, which doesn't have cutting mode. Maybe a Large Knife with the Armor-Piercing option from LTC2, at $160? |
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I don't knw if this was used in stand-up combat or for specialized circumstances such as stabbing guys you've already knocked down. |
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For a cinematic game a rules exception perk seems in order, but for a more realistic game, I’d use a hard technique to buy off the penalty for each skill, similar to off hand weapon training.
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Yeah, I kind of wondered if you could do that.
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Since civilians of the period were well into the Smallsword period it was still a preety big sword by comparison but the Scots can probably be excused for reusing the Gaelic for "great sword" (pronounced more or less as "claymore" though spelled in a complicated and eccentric fashion) rather than coining somehtign new that translated as "pretty big sword". |
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IMO.
In the first video, he's not suffering a penalty to either his block or his knife skill, rather he is allowing himself another option with his off hand at the expense of the other when the other option is exercised. In the second video (katar/dagger) he is mitigating his reduced parry with the dagger, in a manner akin to the cross technique. The above relates to the weapons in the hand, and not to the position-counter position-dance flow movement that the practitioners seem to suggest would occur in the fight. |
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