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hcobb 04-06-2019 12:37 PM

Flaming Silver Dagger Staff
 
Flaming Silver Dagger Staff: 1d-1 +2 for flames = 1d+1

Flaming Silver Dagger Staff with Weapon Mastery: 1d-1 +2 for Mastery = 1d+1 therefore flames add +3. Final result is 1d+4

Very Fine Flaming Silver Dagger Staff: 1d-1 plus 2 for craftsmanship is 1d+1 therefore flames add +3 and final result is 1d+4

+2 enchantment Flaming Silver Dagger Staff: 1d+1 plus 3 for flames is 1d+4

Right?

Note all of the above is the normal weapons damage. Occult strike gets no bonuses at all from any of the above.

Skarg 04-06-2019 01:15 PM

Re: Flaming Silver Dagger Staff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hcobb (Post 2253761)
Flaming Silver Dagger Staff: 1d-1 +2 for flames = 1d+1

Yes.


Quote:

Originally Posted by hcobb (Post 2253761)
Flaming Silver Dagger Staff with Weapon Mastery: 1d-1 +2 for Mastery = 1d+1 therefore flames add +3. Final result is 1d+4

No. Flaming bonus is based on how much damage the weapon does, and I would assess that even before the adjustment for fine quality, but certainly before the adjustment for the skill of the user.

Therefore 1d-1 +2 flaming +2 Mastery = 1d+3


Quote:

Originally Posted by hcobb (Post 2253761)
Very Fine Flaming Silver Dagger Staff: 1d-1 plus 2 for craftsmanship is 1d+1 therefore flames add +3 and final result is 1d+4

Maybe. As above, I'd tend to think the effect of flaming is based on the type of weapon before any bonuses, so 1d-1 +2 flaming +2 fine = 1d+3.


Quote:

Originally Posted by hcobb (Post 2253761)
+2 enchantment Flaming Silver Dagger Staff: 1d+1 plus 3 for flames is 1d+4

As above, I'd say 1d-1 +2 flaming +2 enchantment = 1d+3.


Of course then there's the fine flaming enchanted silver dagger wielded by a master (who's probably not a wizard, since that would waste a lot of potential spell knowledge), which would be:

1d-1 +2 flaming +2 fine +2 enchantment +2 mastery = 1d+7 (which I'd convert to 3d). It's also pretty darned expensive. I'd rather spend that effort on a larger weapon.

Fine flaming enchanted greatsword wielded by a master is 3d+1 +1d+1 flaming +2 fine +2 enchantment +2 master = 4d+8 (which I'd convert to 6d+1). Then I'd give it to someone who can get up to adjDX 16, for some nice sweeping blow mayhem...

hcobb 04-06-2019 01:23 PM

Re: Flaming Silver Dagger Staff
 
Advantage of this nonsense is that it imposes torch penalties on animals while leaving both hands available for spellcasting.

Then when humans HTH (animals can't) you've got the flaming weapon to apply at really close range to their tender spots.


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