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Steve Jackson 04-10-2019 05:16 PM

Re: Pre-Gen Character Card Errors
 
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How extremely embarrassing. The proper number of errors would have been zero. Four cards wrong is quite out of line. (edit) On pained review, I see that Meg has a weapon too big for her (should be a hammer) and Sirocco is carrying a club which should be a rapier.

I feel motivated to reprint those, since we have updated the character card format anyhow.

Need a better checking process, obviously.

So attached, both as apology and part of that checking process, please find a pdf of the text file for the upcoming wizard cards. If you see anything, post it here!

hcobb 04-10-2019 05:44 PM

Re: Pre-Gen Character Card Errors
 
Blur ring specifically noted ITL as being always on and not ST cost so why noted this on the random add-on table?

None of the wizards have the lower level Staff spells required by their high level staffs. Will post by XP tomorrow.

tomc 04-10-2019 08:09 PM

Re: Pre-Gen Character Card Errors
 
Fiona – Halfling Apprentice (30 points)

Should be listed as (32 points), and IQ is listed out of order (before DX)

larsdangly 04-10-2019 09:38 PM

Re: Pre-Gen Character Card Errors
 
Looks good! I appreciate the little reminders about items, as I find it hard to remember which ones require ST expenditure and which don't.

hcobb 04-11-2019 01:25 AM

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Attribute points are a poor judge of a wizard's abilities.

Here I list each one by XPs used to show how much this jumps around

Larya – Elven Adept (40 points) 16500 XP (Native is free, Staff I through IV)

Talarion the Younger – Elven Wanderer (40 points) 15500 XP

Forsythe – Combat Mage (40 points) 14300 XP

Bynin the Broad – Dwarf Delver Mage (40 points) 12100 XP (Dwarven is native at zero points, but Staff I and II)

Uver Uver – Gate Wizard (39 points) 9800 XP (Staff I and II)

Cerion – Elven Mage-Thief (38 points) 9300 XP (Native is free, Literacy isn't doubled, Staff I and II, "she may [not] use the Staff power at the same time", as that is a Staff IV power.)

Wise – Orc Shaman (38 points) 7300 XP (Native is free, Staff I to IV)

Littlecut – Orc Assassin Mage (38 points) 6900 XP (Staff I and II)

Sor the Soothsayer – Diviner (36 points) 4100 XP (Megahex Avert at IQ 12?, plus Staff I)

Gnarz – Orc Combat Mage (36 points) 3600 XP (Staff I)

Visshalara – Goblin Delver Mage (36 points) 3600 XP (req Staff I)

Endenothee – Court Magician (34 points) 2700 XP (Staff I)

P’nina – Budding Adept (35 points) 2600 XP (Staff I and II)

Rusalka – Shadow Mage (34 points) 1800 XP (Staff I)

Asphodel - Ranger Mage (35 points) 1700 XP (Staff I)

Jomapar – Goblin Mind Mage (36 points) 1700 XP (Staff I and II)

The Magnificent Marvolio – Entertainer (35 points) 1600 XP (missing Staff II)

Embarr – Fire Mage (34 points) 1400 XP

Koris – Practical Mage (32 points) 500 XP (extra skill point)

Fiona – Halfling Apprentice (32, not 30 points) 200 XP (Native tongue is?, needs Knife talent or Thrown Weapons doesn't apply)

Harro Halfheight – Halfling Chef (32 points) 200 XP (Native tongue? Cook is only three points for mundane. Not a starting 30 point Halfling)

Atelyas – Delver Mage (32 points) 0 XP

Medrijji – Summoner Mage (32 points) 0 XP

Orri – Dwarf Mechanician-Mage (32 points) 0 XP (Dwarven is native at zero points, so has another skill point for say literacy or Humanish)

JLV 04-11-2019 01:28 AM

Re: Pre-Gen Character Card Errors
 
If I understood the rules on Staff properly, the higher level Staff Spell replaces the lower level one(s) (and includes it/them as subsumed), so there is no need for the Wizards to show the lesser Staff Spells on their cards.

hcobb 04-11-2019 01:35 AM

Re: Pre-Gen Character Card Errors
 
ITL 18: "Each level of Staff is a prerequisite to the next."

You don't have to show it, but it does drive the XP costs up a bunch.

JLV 04-11-2019 01:37 AM

Re: Pre-Gen Character Card Errors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hcobb (Post 2254872)
ITL 18: "Each level of Staff is a prerequisite to the next."

You don't have to show it, but it does drive the XP costs up a bunch.

Which is relevant to these cards how?

hcobb 04-11-2019 06:13 AM

Re: Pre-Gen Character Card Errors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JLV (Post 2254873)
Which is relevant to these cards how?

Several of the cards state how many extra skill points that wizard has. These counts are incorrect.

mark hill 04-11-2019 07:06 AM

Re: Pre-Gen Character Card Errors
 
maybe these characters were writ while the rules were still in flux?

but a Blur ring costs no ST to power even in the ancient rules


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