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Tim Kauffman 02-09-2018 06:52 AM
The FANTASY TRIP Artwork
 
MELEE
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128248...7668180412391/

WIZARD
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128248...7668180412391/

This is some of the coolest looking Artwork I've ever seen.
Is it possible to ever have these made available as Art Prints, without the text? Maybe 8 1/2"x 11".

When I first saw these back in the 70's the Artwork absolutely blew me away.

Please consider.

malloyd 02-09-2018 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim Kauffman (Post 2157015)
This is some of the coolest looking Artwork I've ever seen.
Is it possible to ever have these made available as Art Prints, without the text? Maybe 8 1/2"x 11".

When I first saw these back in the 70's the Artwork absolutely blew me away.

Please consider.
I doubt Steve has the rights. For that matter assuming the artist (Roger Stine) had a competent agent, Metagaming probably didn't have the rights to do that.

larsdangly 02-09-2018 09:56 AM
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Personally, the look I really dig are the 1st printing Melee and Wizard covers and the second printing melee cover

Steve Jackson 02-09-2018 01:44 PM
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Interesting point. I wonder if we have a chance of hunting down the estate of Roger Stine?

The first MELEE cover was by Liz Danforth. I still think it's awesome. I have told this story before, but the reason the Gargoyle is in the game is that Liz drew that cover and it was so good that I edited the game to match!

The first WIZARD cover was by Clark Bradley.

tbeard1999 02-09-2018 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Jackson (Post 2157093)
Interesting point. I wonder if we have a chance of hunting down the estate of Roger Stine?

The first MELEE cover was by Liz Danforth. I still think it's awesome. I have told this story before, but the reason the Gargoyle is in the game is that Liz drew that cover and it was so good that I edited the game to match!

The first WIZARD cover was by Clark Bradley.
Yeah, but when we gonna get that cool Erase Face spell shown on the Wizard cover?

Shostak 02-09-2018 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Jackson (Post 2157093)
The first MELEE cover was by Liz Danforth. I still think it's awesome. I have told this story before, but the reason the Gargoyle is in the game is that Liz drew that cover and it was so good that I edited the game to match!

The first WIZARD cover was by Clark Bradley.
Those were superb covers, and the ones I most fondly remember.

JLV 02-09-2018 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Jackson (Post 2157093)
Interesting point. I wonder if we have a chance of hunting down the estate of Roger Stine?

The first MELEE cover was by Liz Danforth. I still think it's awesome. I have told this story before, but the reason the Gargoyle is in the game is that Liz drew that cover and it was so good that I edited the game to match!

The first WIZARD cover was by Clark Bradley.
Personally, I preferred their work to that of Mark Stine. At the time, it looked almost like they were trying to use computer software to draw art -- which at THAT time was not very appealing at all, graphically speaking; I much preferred the more organic style that Liz and Clark brought to the games.

This is not intended as a knock against Stine; I know a lot of people really admired his art. It's just that I personally thought it wasn't as good as Liz' and Clark's stuff...

Tim Kauffman 02-09-2018 08:50 PM
Re: The FANTASY TRIP Artwork
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Jackson (Post 2157093)
I wonder if we have a chance of hunting down the estate of Roger Stine?
A potential greenlight for Art Prints and...mayhaps...some new Artwork from Roger Stine, just in time for the re-release of the FANTASY TRIP??? :)

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Originally Posted by Steve Jackson (Post 2157093)
The first MELEE cover was by Liz Danforth. I still think it's awesome. I have told this story before, but the reason the Gargoyle is in the game is that Liz drew that cover and it was so good that I edited the game to match!

The first WIZARD cover was by Clark Bradley.
I like all the Artwork it's just the ones I mentioned look like they should be Art Prints. In fact to put too fine a point on this, I have wished to have ArtPrints of these two since the first time I saw them back in the 70's. The others are nice too, but there is only so much wall space. ;)

Oneiros 02-10-2018 05:10 PM
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Did anyone ever think the namesake wizard in the Stine covers (including ITL) was modeled after Mr. Jackson?

No? Just me, then?

JLV 02-10-2018 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Kauffman (Post 2157187)
A potential greenlight for Art Prints and...mayhaps...some new Artwork from Roger Stine, just in time for the re-release of the FANTASY TRIP??? :)
Roger Stine is dead (thus the "contact his estate" remark from Steve)...

Skarg 02-10-2018 10:46 PM
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Did I dream it, or has the artwork on the cover of ITL/AM/AW been used on other unrelated things as well? I thought I remembered seeing it elsewhere some years ago.

(I really like almost all of the TFT art: Roger Stine, Pat Hidy, Liz Danforth, Robert Phillips...)

Steve Jackson 02-11-2018 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Oneiros (Post 2157441)
Did anyone ever think the namesake wizard in the Stine covers (including ITL) was modeled after Mr. Jackson?
Not just you :) It might be a coincidence, because a lot of people look generally like me, but that looks more than generally like me in the SCA days. I don't know!

Shostak 02-19-2018 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Skarg (Post 2157525)
(I really like almost all of the TFT art: Roger Stine, Pat Hidy, Liz Danforth, Robert Phillips...)
Hidy's work was very good. A little Marvel Comics, perhaps, with regard to anatomy and costume, but the graphic quality was very strong. Phillips's work had a little less punch, graphically, but was also very good. I'll posit that B&W is the best choice for this kind of illustration; by eschewing the seductive distraction of colour, it more compellingly fires the imagination, which is rather the point.

Someone said it above, I think: posters of any of the classic art (or even new art that was consistent with the aesthetic) would be really cool as part of the deluxe TFT.

Kirk 02-24-2018 12:01 PM
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For those who haven't been tuned in for the whole 40 years, Liz Danforth is a Tucson-based artist who is probably best known for her Magic cards. She's done a lot of fantasy, SF, and steampunk illustration for gaming and other markets. When she's not making art, she is a writer and a librarian. She's also the very first artist whom I art-directed, and one of my oldest friends. So I'm very excited to be working with her again.

You might ask why I'm asking such a skilled illustrator to do something as simple as game counters. Two reasons. First: she did the original ones, fans have asked for something like that in the new edition, and who better to do that than the original artist? And second: Counters may be simple things, but they can be bad, good, or very fine. I'm going for "very fine." You deserve that, and so do I.

– Steve Jackson
This is very, very satisfying news! I have always thought Danforth's work was excellent and gave that professional, mature feel to TFT, as opposed to some of the tending juvenile or just downright poorly drawn artwork of other game systems. That gargoyle cover was instrumental in my seeing and buying Melee as a high school senior discovering the start of a great game system, having tried D&D and liking very little about it, including the art.

JLV 02-24-2018 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirk (Post 2161169)
This is very, very satisfying news! I have always thought Danforth's work was excellent and gave that professional, mature feel to TFT, as opposed to some of the tending juvenile or just downright poorly drawn artwork of other game systems. That gargoyle cover was instrumental in my seeing and buying Melee as a high school senior discovering the start of a great game system, having tried D&D and liking very little about it, including the art.
I could not agree more with this sentiment -- or with the gargoyle cover being the one that first got me into this back in high school when I was also a senior!

Skarg 02-24-2018 03:15 PM
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I had a middle school teacher who looked through In the Labyrinth and observed that it had better-looking women than D&D. ;)

The dead-gargoyle-cover Melee was my first TFT (or RPG) book, though I had Ogre and Ice War before it (and various Avalon Hill & other wargames before tha).

wolf90 02-24-2018 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Skarg (Post 2161233)
The dead-gargoyle-cover Melee was my first TFT (or RPG) book, though I had Ogre and Ice War before it.
What exquisite taste!

(Me too!)

D.


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