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Oneiros 01-14-2018 02:41 PM

TFT - Game Accessories
 
I was wondering a couple things regarding table top accessories for playing TFT in the modern age. I guess this is both asking if such things exist, and a wish list for TFT when the new version comes out.

1) Multi-hex bases for miniatures. For a giant or dragon, are there any companies that currently create miniature bases suitable for hex maps, with two, three and four hex arrangements? (A 7 hex for big dragons might be asking too much). Either flat for regular miniatures or slotted for Cardboard Heroes would be great.

Could this possibly be something SJG might produce for TFT (especially since it would also be suitable for GURPS/Dungeon Fantasy?)

2) Durable mat with mega-hexes. Along the lines of a vinyl Chessex battlemat. Does such a thing exist? I don't know if any other games even use the mega-hex concept, so I'm thinking not. But I'd love to have a 3'x4' mat like the ones I currently use but with mega-hexes already printed on it. (Assuming the new TFT version still uses mega-hexes.)

3) When's TFT getting its own sub-forum? ;)

Steve Jackson 01-14-2018 04:10 PM

Re: TFT - Game Accessories
 
All I can say now is that those are not invalid ideas. If someone specializing in battlemats wanted to do a megahex map, I'd listen. OTOH, if you are into making and painting big miniatures, creating a specific base is probably not much of a challenge. Laser cutter if you want to machine it, Sculpey if you want to sculpt it, probably lots of other options depending on what you work with.

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Originally Posted by Oneiros (Post 2150181)
(Assuming the new TFT version still uses mega-hexes.)

Now that's an interesting point. Are the megahexes really useful, or do they just make the maps nonstandard?

Shostak 01-14-2018 07:27 PM

Re: TFT - Game Accessories
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Jackson (Post 2150204)
Are the megahexes really useful, or do they just make the maps nonstandard?

I used a wet-erase battlemat that did not have megahexes, so I just counted hexes instead. It isn't onerous, and it makes standard hex mats/boards usable. A really nice wet/dry erase magnetic hex mat would be a great addition to a TFT boxed set.

Chris Goodwin 01-14-2018 07:45 PM

Re: TFT - Game Accessories
 
Megahexes would certainly call it out as being for TFT for sure. Maybe a dot to mark the center hex of each megahex; the marking becomes unobtrusive but still there.

K Peterson 01-14-2018 07:46 PM

Re: TFT - Game Accessories
 
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Originally Posted by Oneiros (Post 2150181)
1) Multi-hex bases for miniatures. For a giant or dragon, are there any companies that currently create miniature bases suitable for hex maps, with two, three and four hex arrangements? (A 7 hex for big dragons might be asking too much). Either flat for regular miniatures or slotted for Cardboard Heroes would be great.

The only ones that I'm aware of are produced by Litko Games Accessories, and those are only 2-hex arrangements and they seem only available in 1"/~25mm.

tomc 01-14-2018 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Goodwin (Post 2150246)
Megahexes would certainly call it out as being for TFT for sure...

I like megahexes. It feels strange to me to play TFT on a plain hex map.

larsdangly 01-14-2018 11:14 PM

Re: TFT - Game Accessories
 
It's worth questioning the value of MH, but I'm 'pro'. I particularly like the idea of using MH as a way to make range and area calculations quicker and more visually obvious.

Mark Skarr 01-15-2018 12:44 AM

Re: TFT - Game Accessories
 
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Originally Posted by K Peterson (Post 2150247)
The only ones that I'm aware of are produced by Litko Games Accessories, and those are only 2-hex arrangements and they seem only available in 1"/~25mm.

With just a little work in Tinkercad, you can 3d print your own multi-hex bases.

Oneiros 01-15-2018 08:48 AM

Re: TFT - Game Accessories
 
I like using minis, but not a big mini builder/painter myself. Fortunately, others I game with are moderate fig collectors, so we generally have what we need. When I need more, I have used Cardboard Heroes, Pathfinder Pawns, and plain ole dice. I also keep a Bag O' Zombies!!! in my DM bag that see a fair amount of use.

Of course, most of the larger figs are designed for square grids, with square or round bases. That's why I'd like to see the multi-hex bases for hex based games, and would really like Cardboard Hero compatible versions. (A 5-hex long CBH dragon would look awesome.)

After doing a bit of searching, I think the simplest home made approach would be to take existing single hex fig bases and glue them into the various multi-hex configurations. To make them CBH compatible, it'd be easy enough to glue a CBH (or Pathfinder Pawn) base (or two) on top.

Many hex bases I see though have slightly sloped edges. Any recommendations for hex bases with flat vertical sides, for better contact when gluing?

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Originally Posted by Chris Goodwin (Post 2150246)
Megahexes would certainly call it out as being for TFT for sure. Maybe a dot to mark the center hex of each megahex; the marking becomes unobtrusive but still there.

The dot mark on a regular mat is a great idea. Use a permanent pen, and you've got a dedicated TFT map. (Braver souls might even trace out the mega-hex borders in permanent marker.)

As for usefulness, I also like the quick visual calculation mega-hexes give. Again, would help my own GURPS averse players, who didn't like the range/speed calculation involved for ranged combat.

JLV 01-16-2018 01:31 PM

Re: TFT - Game Accessories
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Jackson (Post 2150204)
All I can say now is that those are not invalid ideas. If someone specializing in battlemats wanted to do a megahex map, I'd listen. OTOH, if you are into making and painting big miniatures, creating a specific base is probably not much of a challenge. Laser cutter if you want to machine it, Sculpey if you want to sculpt it, probably lots of other options depending on what you work with.

But, thinking in terms of Cardboard Heroes, such bases would be a wonderful addition...

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Originally Posted by Steve Jackson (Post 2150204)
Now that's an interesting point. Are the megahexes really useful, or do they just make the maps nonstandard?

Personally, I find them extremely useful for what I assume their intended purpose was -- figuring missile weapon range effects. I also find them useful for mapping, believe it or not, feeling that a 10' square is pretty close to a megahex, and a 5' square is pretty close to a single hex (not as close, but still a useful guide). In short, I'd hate to see them go away.

(Slightly off-topic, but still at least tangential...) Finally, didn't someone do a "conversion" thing where they showed how to convert megahexes into squares at one time? That might be a very useful tool for helping convert mapping into grid paper for buildings and the like, while simultaneously retaining the advantages of hexes for combat and range calculations. (I can't find it in my files right now, but I distinctly remember the author dealing with odd room shapes, corridors, T-intersections, and so on.) And hexes are enormously important to TFT's tactical combat simulation -- without them it not only wouldn't be the same, it also wouldn't work nearly as well.


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