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Norse 11-16-2017 06:33 PM
Hirelings and Hireling special abilities
 
  1. A basic Hireling allows you to carry and use one extra item. We always interpreted that as "you may have 1 extra item equipped", sorta like a "Cheat!" card. However, the thief Hireling also gives me "1 extra hand", does that mean I can equip a 2-handed item (can carry and use one extra item that is legal for a thief to use) and a 1 handed item (due to the thief having 1 extra hand)?
  2. The Bard Hireling says you are allowed to "carry and use any one item that is legal for a bard to use. its bonuses and abilities works for you.". Does that refer to the item I choose to equip my Hireling with, or does that mean the abilities and bonus of the Bard class?
  3. What sex is a Hireling by default? Is it the same sex that is shown on the card? If no sex is obvious, can the player choose or is that hireling not allowed to carry gender-specific items?

MunchkinMan 11-20-2017 12:23 PM
Re: Hirelings and Hireling special abilities
 
We typically refer, unofficially, to Hireling as a Cheat! card with a +1 bonus and the ability to sacrifice it to Run Away. So, it can use any Item, and since it also allows you to carry an extra Item, that should be interpreted to mean that the Item being used by Hireling could be Big, even if you are already carrying a Big Item.

Class- and Race-based Hirelings, like Thief Hireling and Bard Hireling, almost all say the same thing about the ability to carry and use an Item. Given the context, the statement about bonuses and abilities can only be referring to the Item, and not the Race or Class of the Hireling. I'm comfortable that none of those Hirelings give you any abilities of the Class or Race for which they are named, only the abilities as stated on the cards.

As for the Thief Hireling's extra hand, it means that you have an extra hand with which to use Hand Items. So, yes, if you were using a Item that needs 2 Hands, you can now use another Hand Item.

Finally: The sex of a Hireling is based on its appearance on the card. This is stated in the rules for Hirelings in any of the sets and expansions that come with Hireling cards. Theoretically, it should be obvious. If you have a question about a specific Hireling, please let us know.

Norse 11-26-2017 05:15 PM
Re: Hirelings and Hireling special abilities
 
The 2 Hirelings that seem unclear to us are the gnome and theif hireling. (For example, the gnome hireling is just a tuba on legs according to the card art.)

Melifton 11-27-2017 02:28 AM
Re: Hirelings and Hireling special abilities
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MunchkinMan (Post 2137304)
We typically refer, unofficially, to Hireling as a Cheat! card with a +1 bonus and the ability to sacrifice it to Run Away. So, it can use any Item, and since it also allows you to carry an extra Item, that should be interpreted to mean that the Item being used by Hireling could be Big, even if you are already carrying a Big Item.

Class- and Race-based Hirelings, like Thief Hireling and Bard Hireling, almost all say the same thing about the ability to carry and use an Item. Given the context, the statement about bonuses and abilities can only be referring to the Item, and not the Race or Class of the Hireling. I'm comfortable that none of those Hirelings give you any abilities of the Class or Race for which they are named, only the abilities as stated on the cards.

As for the Thief Hireling's extra hand, it means that you have an extra hand with which to use Hand Items. So, yes, if you were using a Item that needs 2 Hands, you can now use another Hand Item.

Finally: The sex of a Hireling is based on its appearance on the card. This is stated in the rules for Hirelings in any of the sets and expansions that come with Hireling cards. Theoretically, it should be obvious. If you have a question about a specific Hireling, please let us know.
If Hirelings race isn't mentioned, can he use any race specific items? (e.g. Can a Thief Hireling use "Bow with Ribbons"?).
Thnx!

Andrew Hackard 11-27-2017 03:57 AM
Re: Hirelings and Hireling special abilities
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Norse (Post 2138753)
The 2 Hirelings that seem unclear to us are the gnome and theif hireling. (For example, the gnome hireling is just a tuba on legs according to the card art.)
The Gnome Hireling is male. I can't find an image of the Thief Hireling online, so I'll have to check at the office.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Melifton (Post 2138835)
If Hirelings race isn't mentioned, can he use any race specific items? (e.g. Can a Thief Hireling use "Bow with Ribbons"?).
Thnx!
No. Hirelings don't have a race unless the title of the card says they do.

Melifton 11-27-2017 05:30 AM
Re: Hirelings and Hireling special abilities
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard (Post 2138839)
No. Hirelings don't have a race unless the title of the card says they do.
Does it mean that their race is human and it will effect the monsters with bonuses/penalties vs humans?
Thnx again!

Andrew Hackard 11-27-2017 08:13 AM
Re: Hirelings and Hireling special abilities
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melifton (Post 2138843)
Does it mean that their race is human and it will effect the monsters with bonuses/penalties vs humans?
Thnx again!
No, it means they have no Race at all. Hirelings are ciphers unless otherwise defined.

Elrealchipa 05-13-2018 01:17 PM
Re: Hirelings and Hireling special abilities
 
So just to be clear, having a thief hireling doesn't allow me to backstab or a bard hireling doesnt allow me to enthrall and so on correct?

Andrew Hackard 05-13-2018 04:40 PM
Re: Hirelings and Hireling special abilities
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elrealchipa (Post 2176002)
So just to be clear, having a thief hireling doesn't allow me to backstab or a bard hireling doesnt allow me to enthrall and so on correct?
Correct. Hirelings give you exactly what abilities are listed on their cards, plus the generic Hireling abilities found in the rules. Nothing else.

TheGreyKlerik 06-11-2018 12:02 PM
Re: Hirelings and Hireling special abilities
 
the Hireling: Lance card says "Lance gives you +10 when fighting Dragons!"
does that mean ANY number of dragons? as in 1+?
i guess i would read this as multiple dragons.

Andrew Hackard 06-11-2018 12:36 PM
Re: Hirelings and Hireling special abilities
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreyKlerik (Post 2182059)
the Hireling: Lance card says "Lance gives you +10 when fighting Dragons!"
does that mean ANY number of dragons? as in 1+?
i guess i would read this as multiple dragons.
If there is a Dragon in the combat, Lance gets +10. It's not +10 per Dragon, just a flat +10 if one or more Dragons are present.

Coin Flip 42 06-16-2018 11:15 AM
Re: Hirelings and Hireling special abilities
 
There is the Demon Sword from Munchkin Bites that gives you a + 3 bonus to combat for every Demon in the combat.

There are demons in sets besides Bites, so that would add up to quite the bonus in a combat, but the +3 bonus per demon would not be enough to overcome their total combat power. :-)

Andrew Hackard 06-16-2018 05:57 PM
Re: Hirelings and Hireling special abilities
 
True, but that's not what the question was about.

This is turning into a discussion thread, which is against the policies in 101, so I'm closing the thread.


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