Converting Pathfinder Characters
 

As a general rule of thumb, how many extra character points is being 10th level in Pathfinder worth?

I've been using 10pts per level (including 1st level). Does this make sense?

Re: Converting Pathfinder Characters
 

I think the most used model considers 150 pts a lvl 1 character, with each 25 pts increment representing a new level.

In my book that would mean that lvl 10 characters would result in around 400 pts characters.

Re: Converting Pathfinder Characters
 

Nope.
GURPS starting characters are more powerful to start but level off more then Pathfinder in my opinion.

Re: Converting Pathfinder Characters
 

I understand the desire for "mechanical" conversion, however I think translating concepts makes much more sense in these cases than translating levels into character points.

While there can be guidelines and guesstimations for doing that, since there's not a true equivalence between both game systems (*), I don't believe in direct conversion rules from Dungeons & Dragons or Pathfinder to Dungeon Fantasy.

Anyway, maybe in a case like yours it could be good to accept the guesstimation you like better for your campaign and stick to it for coherence during its duration.

(*) In the same way there are no character levels, there's no equivalence between D&D's Hit Points and DFRPG's Hit Points, for instance.

Re: Converting Pathfinder Characters
 

I would go with 30 points per level. My experience that 5th level D&D 3.X characters (like Pathfinder) are "roughly" equivalent in capability to 150 point GURPS characters. At 10th level character should be made with the DF templates.

Re: Converting Pathfinder Characters
 

I'm going to go with a "me too!" response, but with a note that if you are trying to translate the level and have it mean something, you will be greatly disappointed. But having played D&D 3.5 at about 35th-40th level, those guys feel like 1,000-point comic book superheroes, with all that entails, good and bad (mostly bad; I find comic book supers boring).

Re: Converting Pathfinder Characters
 

That's what I would use. I once worked out the value of all the improvements a D&D3.5 character gets as they advance (BAB, ability bonus, feats, saves, skills, etc.) and roughly what those were equivalent to in GURPS and it came out at just about 125 + level x 25, when averaged over the PH classes, assuming a reasonably generous stat generation system (4d6, drop lowest, or 30+ points in v3.5's point system). 3d6 (in order or not) or 25 points was more like 75+25/level.

Pathfinder is more generous to all characters, and more generous to non-casters than 3.5, but a little less generous to the top-end casters (clerics, wizards), so it'll come out about the same.

Re: Converting Pathfinder Characters
 

I played a cleric from level 1 through to 20 on the Way of the Wicked adventure path. That character had close to standard wealth by level and was a fairly standard 20 buy for attributes. I optimised the character a little, just enough to be competent enough to survive the campaign without dying (although I had a number of close calls).

That character was probably roughly equivalent to 50 points per level in gurps terms. I think a standard core rulebook fighter with a 15 buy would be more like 30-40 points per level depending on the degree of optimisation. A Pathfinder wizard with maximum cheese would be more like 80-100 points per level. If you are adding mythic rules on top you are probably looking at another 50+ gurps points per mythic tier.

Re: Converting Pathfinder Characters
 

Really? My experience with APs is that the PCs usually have close to double what they are supposed to have. I often wonder if I play with people who are just extra efficient at looting, or what?

Re: Converting Pathfinder Characters
 

Yes, I think I am unusual in that regard. I don't like the Christmas tree effect that is so prevalent in Pathfinder. I definitely don't make full use of crafting feats to get magic items more cheaply. I have even had characters with no interest in treasure.