Re: KYOS - getting rid of thrust and swing damage
 

Yeah, but there are workarounds. Small creatures are not actually incapable of hurting people.

Re: KYOS - getting rid of thrust and swing damage
 

SW = TH x 1.5 was part of the GULLIVER house rules in the 1990s and oughties, as was making damage double as ST doubles (currently it increases faster than ST, and swung damage is about twice thrust at the ST scores of most adventurers).

One option would be to give each attack mode of a weapon a name and a damage or ST modifier: swing, thrust, pommel strike, back spike, rip, ... Another is to just say that swings increase your effective ST by 50% (for example).

Re: KYOS - getting rid of thrust and swing damage
 

Part of that issue is the 1 HP level of granularity. Dozens of 0.25 HP bites would be very scary, but awkward to model.

Re: KYOS - getting rid of thrust and swing damage
 

The damage mechanism in KYOS is fairly improbable for any ST outside of the range of maybe 5-20.

Re: KYOS - getting rid of thrust and swing damage
 

I think it can work, but you have to rework the bonuses for Weapon Master/Karate-Boxing-Brawling/Hooves/etc. from +1/+2 per die to +1/+2 period. What is your experience with it?

Re: KYOS - getting rid of thrust and swing damage
 

A ST of 70 can pick up a battleship (BL 10,000 tons) and cannot scratch its paint with an attack (Thrust 15d+2). At the other end of things, a rat with a ST of -10 has a Thrust damage of 1d-22, or 1d-12/10 if you use the rule of 10s.

Re: KYOS - getting rid of thrust and swing damage
 

Disallow ST lower than 1. ST 0 means you have BL 0 and damage 0. Yeah it breaks the pattern, but I can live with that. And allow buying Striking ST in unlimited quantities. KYOS isn't perfect, but it's better than Vanilla GURPS.

Re: KYOS - getting rid of thrust and swing damage
 

I think that in the context of KYOSish LogST, it would make sense to have logarithmic damage (e.g. "a gun twice as dangerous as the previous one enjoys a +1d damage increase relative to it"). Without it, the abolishing of thr/sw looks weird. After all, the initial idea of the split was that Swing is the faster progression of damage. Which for some reason was ignored in the table at very-high ST.

Re: KYOS - getting rid of thrust and swing damage
 

Sounds like a lot of work. I'm trying to get through this with as little work as possible. :o)

Re: KYOS - getting rid of thrust and swing damage
 

Levers should really get a per-die damage bonus, scaling with the size of the lever, instead of a separate table. A dagger might get a +1 per die, since the lever is mostly your arm, while most swords might get +2 per die.