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ericthered 08-22-2024 04:32 PM

Re: Lost in Dreams II (OCC)
 
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Originally Posted by Alden Loveshade (Post 2535485)
I was looking through this thread which I find quite interesting. But I do have some questions. (Note I do all my Fourth Edition characters using GURPS Character Assistant.)

1) What is "Requires Immediate Preparation 1 Hour -75%"? In GCA5, "Preparation Required (1 hour)" is -50%, but I don't know what "Requires Immediate Preparation" is. So I'm curious.

2) "Usual Background"--is this Unusual Background, or something different?

3) "Increased Range x2 Million +200%)". Maybe I'm missing something, but GCA5 has this as +190%.

Thanks!


#1: Immediate preparation Required shows up in Psionic Powers and in Power Ups 8: Limitations. Its very useful.
#2: That's a Typo, yes. It also gets used as a general measure of the strength of powers you pick up occasionally.
#3: I'm not going to argue math with the computer. Range is arbitrarily large but gurps doesn't do infinity for that ability so I picked a number that I thought would make the whole ability round to a nice number



I hope that helps!

Alden Loveshade 08-23-2024 10:29 AM

Re: Lost in Dreams II (OCC)
 
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Originally Posted by ericthered (Post 2535488)
#1: Immediate preparation Required shows up in Psionic Powers and in Power Ups 8: Limitations. Its very useful....

I hope that helps!

Thanks for the link! That and the other info definitely help! (And, ironically enough, they made me an admin of that Wiki but I didn't think to look there. D'oh!)

the_matrix_walker 10-03-2024 08:51 AM

Re: Lost in Dreams II (OCC)
 
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Originally Posted by TGLS (Post 2539133)
I don't think it's intentional, but the quote placement makes me think Peter's cutting Leon off here.

Oops. Fixed it!

ericthered 10-24-2024 10:14 AM

Re: Lost in Dreams II (OCC)
 
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Originally Posted by the_matrix_walker (Post 2540623)
((OOC: Have you decided how you want to do the classic magic when it comes to prerequisites and whatnot? This layered progressive system is quite the point sink, and we don't even know for sure if Peter has Magery in the traditional sense. This could be tough from a play/roleplaying perspective, as in character, Peter is not going to refuse the opportunity to learn any magic that he encounters, but I don't really want to dump points into anything that crosses his path, especially when there is no path to the spells I'm actually interested in as a player. This is why I was pitching a modular ability for replicating spells he's studied.))


Yeah, I'm thinking I'm going to use ritual magic, where each college is its own skill, but instead of using prerequisite counts, the penalty is -2*required magery level. (so seek water would have no penalty)

For magic that he's picking up via in-play actions, the first point should be a result of time, not of standard point awards. Though Peter moves so fast its hard, because he wants to learn a skill in an hour. I think for this he'll have to be shown various techniques (spells) individually, but He'll get the initial point from this session.



This is the knowledge college by the way--- that's what Gregory knows, all the seek spells will be considered to be in it.

the_matrix_walker 10-24-2024 12:30 PM

Re: Lost in Dreams II (OCC)
 
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Originally Posted by ericthered (Post 2540632)
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm going to use ritual magic, where each college is its own skill, but instead of using prerequisite counts, the penalty is -2*required magery level. (so seek water would have no penalty)

Okay, so Ritual Magic is M/VH, so a point gives effective skill 10, So a spell requiring Magery 3 would be effective skill 4. Peter is going to have to learn to respect magic a bit more, as he's never met a Critical Spell Failure before. Knowledge spells are usually less spectacular and you usually get lies instead of fireworks, so that lesson may not come as quickly with this college. Hopefully his teacher fills him in on the potential ramifications.

With no actual Magery to boost the skill level, and Magery penalties to a low base skill, this world's magic could be highly volatile to an impulsive and overconfident Peter!
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For magic that he's picking up via in-play actions, the first point should be a result of time, not of standard point awards. Though Peter moves so fast its hard, because he wants to learn a skill in an hour. I think for this he'll have to be shown various techniques (spells) individually, but He'll get the initial point from this session.
Who wouldn't want to pick up a skill in an hour? Peter's desires have little to do with it, it takes how long it takes! But he has picked up most magic in a matter of moments to hours when he's had any kind of instruction, so he does kind of expect it at this point for a given 'trick'. College spells are obviously far broader than anything he's learned so far, so getting a point after such a meeting is exceptionally exceptional.

the_matrix_walker 10-25-2024 08:46 AM

Re: Lost in Dreams II (OCC)
 
As an information Mage, it would be very surprising if this guy did not examine Peter's Aura... which would tell him if he had Magery and how much. Which could lead to an interesting discussion... who knows what else is in Peter's aura?

ericthered 10-25-2024 09:51 AM

Re: Lost in Dreams II (OCC)
 
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Originally Posted by the_matrix_walker (Post 2540657)
Okay, so Ritual Magic is M/VH, so a point gives effective skill 10, So a spell requiring Magery 3 would be effective skill 4. Peter is going to have to learn to respect magic a bit more, as he's never met a Critical Spell Failure before. Knowledge spells are usually less spectacular and you usually get lies instead of fireworks, so that lesson may not come as quickly with this college. Hopefully his teacher fills him in on the potential ramifications.

With no actual Magery to boost the skill level, and Magery penalties to a low base skill, this world's magic could be highly volatile to an impulsive and overconfident Peter!

Magery... I've got some strong feelings about how magery interacts with the standard magic system. It acts like a +1 talent to casting spells is a major boost in power, when 3 ER and a "you can cast X Magery spells" would convey the feeling of power better. By that metric, Peter is Magery 3 .... but that doesn't give a skill bonus.


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Who wouldn't want to pick up a skill in an hour? Peter's desires have little to do with it, it takes how long it takes! But he has picked up most magic in a matter of moments to hours when he's had any kind of instruction, so he does kind of expect it at this point for a given 'trick'. College spells are obviously far broader than anything he's learned so far, so getting a point after such a meeting is exceptionally exceptional.
I mean, a big part of the issue is that Peter plays as though time is a resource (it is, but not everyone plays that way-- turns out BG3 was harder for me because I was playing like the time pressure was real -- silly computer games). He rarely just sits somewhere for a week practicing something or learning a language. And it fits who he is, it just means that he's constantly trying to learn a skill in an hour!


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Originally Posted by the_matrix_walker (Post 2540719)
As an information Mage, it would be very surprising if this guy did not examine Peter's Aura... which would tell him if he had Magery and how much. Which could lead to an interesting discussion... who knows what else is in Peter's aura?

Good note, thanks!

Anaya 10-29-2024 05:39 PM

Re: Lost in Dreams II (OCC)
 
Okay, let's give this a try:

Amy Mills
Gender: Female
Age: 22
Appearance: Tall, caucasian, left-handed, long red hair, blue eyes.
Occupation: None

Background: Amy is a drifter through life. She was born into a decently well off family, that provided for all her needs. She's under no pressure to find a job, or contribute to society. Her education has been scattered and unfocused. She has enough natural talent to coast without much effort. She's tried her hand at writing, singing, gaming, and more. But she never sticks with anything long enough to master it. Amy sees no reason to leave her comfort zone. Perhaps what she needs is a little push...

Attributes
ST 10
DX 12 [40]
IQ 12 [40]
HT 10
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80

Advantages
Eidetic Memory (Photographic) [10]
Voice [10]
Fit [5]
----------------------------------------
25

Disadvantages
Insomniac [-10]
Pacifism (Cannot Harm Innocents) [-10]
Squeamish [-10]
Social Stigma (Valuable Property; Sometimes [-50%]) [-5]
Social Stigma (Second-Class Citizen; Sometimes [-50%]) [-2]

Broad-Minded [-1]
Distractible [-1]
Distinctive Feature (Long red hair) [-1]
Responsive [-1]
----------------------------------------
-41

Skills
Karate-12 [DX+0] [4]

Sewing-12 [DX+0] [1]

Running-10 [HT+0] [2]

Singing-12 [HT+2] [1] {+2 from Voice}

Diplomacy-14 [IQ+2] [4] {+2 from Voice}
Literature-12 [IQ+0] [4]
Musical Composition-12 [IQ+0] [4]

Acting-14 [IQ+2] [2] {+2 from Voice}
Artist (Drawing)-12 [IQ+0] [2]
Cooking-12 [IQ+0] [2]
Expert Skill (Game Theory)-12 [IQ+0] [2] {Flavour}
Fast Talk-14 [IQ+2] [2] {+2 from Voice}
Gambling-12 [IQ+0] [2]
Photography-12 [IQ+0] [2] {Flavour}
Poetry-12 [IQ+0] [2] {Flavour}
Research-12 [IQ+0] [2]
Writing-12 [IQ+0] [2]

Area Knowledge (United Kingdom)-13 [IQ+1] [2] {Flavour}
Games (Go)-13 [IQ+1] [2] {Flavour}
Computer Operation-12 [IQ+0] [1]
First Aid-12 [IQ+0] [1]
----------------------------------------
46

100 (+10 Flavour}

TGLS 10-29-2024 06:07 PM

Re: Lost in Dreams II (OCC)
 
Well this is most sudden and unexpected. Welcome!
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Originally Posted by Anaya (Post 2541117)
Social Stigma (Valuable Property; Sometimes [-50%]) [-5]
Social Stigma (Second-Class Citizen; Sometimes [-50%]) [-2]

I think you're only supposed to pick one of these, not both.

Anaya 10-29-2024 06:21 PM

Re: Lost in Dreams II (OCC)
 
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Originally Posted by TGLS (Post 2541121)
I think you're only supposed to pick one of these, not both.

Plenty of existing characters (like Chandra) have both.


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