Re: Semi-realistic Regeneration and corresponding Increased Consumption
 

I played around a bit with the ideas here and my own, and got this:

Re: Semi-realistic Regeneration and corresponding Increased Consumption
 

Both of these posts are Solid. Freaking. Gold. I just had to pop in and say that. I normally don't. But these are awesome.

Re: Semi-realistic Regeneration and corresponding Increased Consumption
 

I now know the mechanics when my players have the Jaffa that have allied with them wounded. I hadn't realized that I needed that.

Re: Semi-realistic Regeneration and corresponding Increased Consumption
 

I'll second that.

Re: Semi-realistic Regeneration and corresponding Increased Consumption
 

How does AtE's LFP compare to the role that The Last Gasp gives to normal FP (with AP taking the short-term FP role)?

Re: Semi-realistic Regeneration and corresponding Increased Consumption
 

Long-Term Fatigue are essentially regular Fatigue Points with a “generic” Hazard attached. You lose LFP and regular FP from starvation, dehydration, missed sleep and such, and you regain them only when you are getting regular meals and enough sleep (and at twice the rate if you do nothing but eat, drink, and rest for that day).

I actually have a half-written version of my own Last Gasp-style tiered fatigue system based on AtE's LFP — I like what The Last Gasp did in terms of making fatigue realistic, but the bookkeeping is horrendous, and I'm trying to take the best lessons from both systems and strike a good balance between verisimilitude and playability.

Re: Semi-realistic Regeneration and corresponding Increased Consumption
 

Re: LFP and Regeneration. I think a custom limitation could be had here


So if Costs Fatigue (once per minute) is -5% you could modify that with the Hazard modifier. Since LFP is a combination of starvation, sleep, and dehydration, and environmental hazards. You could use the most costly modifier - Missed Sleep (+50%) as the base and then 1/5 of the cost of the others: Dehydration, +4%; Heat, +4%; Freezing, +4%; Starvation, +8%.

This would give a +70% modifier total to the Costs Fatigue modifier. Since this comes to -8.5% I'd just round that up to -10%. So it seems plausible that costing LFP vs. FP adds a another -5% to the final modifier. So if an ability costs you 1 LFP per hour of use that's -5%, per minute would be -10%, and once per second would be -15%. Honestly though. That doesn't seem worth it in most cases. I think I'd just do either a an additional -10% on top of the base cost or double the finl cost (minimum of -5%).

Re: Semi-realistic Regeneration and corresponding Increased Consumption
 

I think nearly everyone agrees that costs fatigue -5% is absurdly undervalued for most situations. From all day every day to around 10 uses along with removing a useful reserve for other survival oriented abilities is FAR more hampering than noisy; makes stealth difficult, to use another -5% limitation as an example.

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Not on target for the thread, please don't derail this one, Flyndaran. Start another one.

Re: Semi-realistic Regeneration and corresponding Increased Consumption
 

Indeed, I've been using PK's house rules for Costs Fatigue for years and years, and have been pricing “Costs LFP” the same as “Costs HP” — and “Costs 1 LFP per HP” for Regeneration as -15%.