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corwyn 09-22-2016 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 2042491)
See GURPS Power Ups 5: Impulse Buys p. 8, which changes Trading Points for Money to 100% off starting wealth in used goods or 50% in cash.

Thanks; I don't use impulse buys and wouldn't have expected to find it under player guidance/buying successes. It's a bit frustrating that for the second time they have admitted it's a poor and unfair rule but leave the fix as an optional rule and not actually change it but at least it's there.

sir_pudding 09-22-2016 05:15 PM

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Off-topic discussion moved to new thread.

Rasputin 09-22-2016 08:00 PM

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I do have a question: how did you get the character to come out in that output? We're all talking about whether it's good or bad, but miss how it came out printed in the first place. If it's a GCA output, it's going to be missed by 98% of the target audience.

PK 09-22-2016 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 2042553)
I do have a question: how did you get the character to come out in that output? We're all talking about whether it's good or bad, but miss how it came out printed in the first place. If it's a GCA output, it's going to be missed by 98% of the target audience.

I wrote it up using our house-style MS Word template, and Nikki Vrtis (our amazing editor) turned it into the PDF that you now see a screen-cap of. (We plan to make the PDF itself available too, but are having weird technical issues; bear with us.) GCA was not involved, mainly because I wanted to make 100% sure that I didn't bring over any "standard GURPS" baggage accidentally . . . but it also helps that these DFRPG templates are really easy to use. The whole character took me maybe 30 minutes to make by hand, and that includes some serious thought over spell choices. Picking his gear took me another 30.

PK 09-28-2016 05:47 PM

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Bonus Spell #1:
Retribution


(Introduced in this Kickstarter update.)

When I was bouncing ideas off of my friends, two of them (Ben and Ben) suggested combat ideas that involved rewinding time or affecting a foe at range as a sort of curse. It got me to thinking about what sort of curses a holy god might approve of, and "you hurt my follower so I'll hurt you" seemed to fit a righteous-yet-lawful "eye for an eye" mentality.

In a way, Retribution is both underpowered and overpowered, depending on the situation. Against most foes, it's more spiteful than anything; a cleric is probably better off maintaining more directly useful buffs on his friends, so they don't get hit in the first place! But some foes are difficult to hurt, due to defenses, distance, Injury Tolerance, and so on. The fae reaver (don't worry, you'll see it soon) is a great example. With a barbarian or similarly beefy meat shield and healing spells at the ready, Retribution can make the bad guy do all of the work!

JMason 09-28-2016 06:07 PM

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Hm, as GM I wonder if I'd let my players use this with a slam to get deal damage back based on the target's damage... Of course that's assuming slams still can damage the attacker.

sir_pudding 09-28-2016 06:09 PM

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So this a bonus spell that is not in Spells? Is this update the only place it will appear?

PK 09-28-2016 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sir_pudding (Post 2044710)
So this a bonus spell that is not in Spells? Is this update the only place it will appear?

Yes, exactly. We've already laid out the sample characters booklet (included with the GM Screen), Spells, and Monsters. But we wanted to celebrate how well this Kickstarter was doing with a bit of bonus content. It might be fair to think of these as "mini stretch goals," where they allocated some of my hours to producing additional exclusive goodies.

Anthony 09-28-2016 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PK (Post 2044701)
When I was bouncing ideas off of my friends, two of them (Ben and Ben) suggested combat ideas that involved rewinding time or affecting a foe at range as a sort of curse. It got me to thinking about what sort of curses a holy god might approve of, and "you hurt my follower so I'll hurt you" seemed to fit a righteous-yet-lawful "eye for an eye" mentality.

Seems like the perfect spell to cast on a zombie or other disposable minion, though the righteous god might not approve of the zombie part.

PK 09-28-2016 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JMason (Post 2044708)
Hm, as GM I wonder if I'd let my players use this with a slam to get deal damage back based on the target's damage... Of course that's assuming slams still can damage the attacker.

Heh, I'd say that's a bit munchkinly myself. A delver slamming into a foe is not the same as that foe striking that delver with a melee attack.


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