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A car for a character --
In '88 I bought a 1981 Plymouth (i.e., Mitsubishi with an American-made name plate) Champ. Paid $850 for it. Loved that car. Easy on the gas (measured 35 mpg on the highway, perhaps 25-27 in the city), easy to fix, easy to park. It had a 5-speed manual plus an "economy-power" lever -- basically gave me a half-gear ratio between the main gears. (You could change on the fly-- just use the clutch as for an ordinary manual).
So I had 10 forward and two reverse gears. I could almost always pick the right gear for any road. Car had a rusted body and sounded like a sewing machine but in the right gear I could pass Mercedes on the hills. How those rich [deleted]s would glare! While I was nowhere near Maine some of its attributes would be of value. Front wheel drive, a light vehicle, and those 10+ gears would make it a fairly good candidate for moving on dirt roads and not getting stuck. Not as good as a real SUV but a LOT cheaper. So a poor to lower-middle-class character might have one of these -- and surprise some snooty SUV owner with how well this Champ could do in relatively bad going . . . Quote:
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I know that the Maine Hunting Shoe and its associates (L.L. Bean) are sacraments Down East but a idiosyncratic character might well have Sorel boots. Made from 1959 to 2005 in Canada. Some kind of durable composite lower, leather uppers, felt lining. Would keep your feet warm in close to 40 below or more.
In Western Minnesota the conventional view four decades ago was that a farmer working 80-100 hours a week from age 15 to death would go through two pairs of Sorels in his lifetime. The current owners, Columbia Sportswear, make Sorel boots in China or Vietnam. I have no knowledge regarding the quality of the current manufacture. |
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How high can you reasonably push the ground clearance of the Grand Wagoneer without making it some sort of Frankentruck? And how does that compare with the cars I had as other options, i.e. such cars as the Chevrolet K5 Blazer, GMC/Chevrolet Suburban, Dodge Ramcharger, Ford Bronco or a converted Ford Econoline? Would all of these be massively inferior to a Chevrolet C/K pickup truck for the role? Assuming we'd always have to have space for five people and a lot of gear, in relative luxury, so those vehicles with smaller passenger space would need an optional upgrade, like an extended or crew cab, for that. Quote:
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Looks a bit like a Twin Peaks vibe going. Interesting.
re: gun laws. Pretty much any kind of firearm except automatic weapons, short barreled rifles and shotguns under 18 inches) and suppressors could be had easily in the US, especially Maine in 1988. This includes semi automatic rifles. California wouldn't have its assault weapon bill for another year till after a school shooting. Concealed weapon permits were fairly rare and few people carried. Hunting rifles for the rich would either by a Weatherby as mentioned or possibly something European and snobbish, a Mauser, Sako or Blaser or the like. A tweaked out Remington is also possible but it would have "Fine" quality and "Fine" appearance in functional in GURPS terms Gun registration is non existent though stores may have a record of a Federal form 4473 if bought from a licensed dealer . It won't help much if the weapon isn't local, is stolen or bought from a private party. I'm not sure how long the retention requirement was in the 80's if its gone up but its currently 20 years. People in Maine did not dress flashy though. I doubt the "New Wave" culture or anything else was common lastly re: Agent Estevez will stick out like a sore thumb. A Hispanic Californian Woman would be very unusual. I wouldn't require any kind of disadvantage for it but she will get a bit of a run around. In the popular stereotype of the time most Mainers have the quirk "Mild Intolerance Non Mainers." AR 15's were much less tacticool in 1988, a laser tube would be a big bulky thing (see Terminator and Cobra ) and fragile not for rifles but a techy person could have one or more likely an Aimpoint reflex sight . They were expensive and rare but did exist. IIRC most of the period tacticool was around magazines and slings lastly re: FBI phones. They did not have cell phones till the mid 90's . Mulder and Skully had them before the real FBI did. They'd have hand radios, range around 3-5 miles. A police radio in the vehicle would I guess have a range of 20 miles Here is an article on 80's gadgets , 80 of the best you might like. You can also Google 80's Sharper Image also re: the FBI in the 80's. It was still driven much by old methods, Hoover era techniques and while they had started to modernize, the clash between New and Old will be a big thing. One way to show this is with issue handguns. Older agents would have .357 magnum revolvers , Model 13 S&W with a 3 inch barrel , newer ones S&W model 459 9mm and a very few with some pulling strings or from the field SWAT teams might have a Sig P228 |
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For one thing, Agent Corelli has TL7, as opposed to the two younger agents. And it is absolutely reflected in their guns. Agent Corelli is old enough for the S&W Model 13 to be a new issue that he didn't want or need. He had the butt of his short-barrelled S&W Model 19 rounded and certified by a Bureau armourer, allowing him to keep carrying it even after the mid-70s issue of the S&W Model 10-6, a .38 Spl. with a 2½-inch barrel and a round butt and the 1980 issue of the Model 13. He carries his 'Combat Magnum' in a shoulder holster, along with four speed-loaders on the off side. When he was assigned to bank robberies at the Boston field office, he bought himself a Bureau-authorised S&W Model 586 with a 6" barrel as well, which he'll carry in a belt holster when he's openly advertising his status as a lawman. Agent Ledoux qualified for the local FBI SWAT team during his assignment to Miami and carries a SIG-Sauer P226 which he got at the end of 1987. During his undercover work in Miami, Agent Ledoux also got authorisation to carry a personally owned S&W Model 39 that he had modified by Armament Systems and Procedures for concealed carry. Now that he is not assigned to undercover work, no one has actually revoked the authorisation, but they might. At any rate, he would be well-advised not to draw any other gun than his official FBI-issue P226 if he is involved in a firearm incident, in order to avoid making the subsequent investigation any more awkward than it has to be. Agents Corelli and Ledoux both own other personal firearms, but obviously do not carry them while on duty. They did both draw a Remington 870 shotgun from their respective armouries, both of them taking any chance to sign one out. In the case of Agent Corelli, he has had his Remington 870 Wingmaster Riot shotgun permanently signed out since 1981 and even added rifle sights, an extended magazine tube and made other small adjustments to it himself (aiming to replicate the feel of the USMC Remington 870 Mark 1), after getting authorisation from the armourer in Boston. Agent Corelli carries the gun in a case with 8 extra shells of 00 buck and keeps a personally owned box of 25 shells of 00 buckshot with it. The morning after the PCs got to Allagash, he also bought two 5-packs of 12G shotgun deer slugs, of whatever brand one would be most likely to find in a small store catering mostly to hikers, canoers and hunters. Agent Ledoux's shotgun is a standard 1970s to 1980s FBI-issue Remington 870 Wingmaster, with a bead-sighted 14" barrel, which was one of his three options from the armoury (the others were 18" and 20"). Such a gun does not please him and he will likely attempt to get authorisation to add a +1 magazine extension, ghost ring sights and possibly even a new composite stock and forend, in tactical black, along with a carry sling. Agent Ledoux did manage to draw some slugs from the armoury and has the shotgun loaded with alternating 00 Buck and slugs, as well as carrying 2 extra shells of each type in the shell carrier he attached to it. He also has 4 extra shells of each type in the case he keeps the gun. I haven't been able to find out what brand of slugs law enforcement in general or the FBI in particular would be most likely to use in the 1980s. Agent Estevez carries a brand-new Bureau issue S&W Model 439. She had never used a firearm before Quantico and owns no personal firearms. |
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Games (Computer Games) in the 1980s
Unbelievably geeky question, but how broad should Games (Computer Games) skill be in the 1980s?
Would Games (NES Games) be a valid speciality? Or would it have to be Games (NES Platformers)/(NES Action-Adventure Games)/(NES Roleplaying Games)/etc.? Could you instead take Games (Computer Platformers)/(Computer Action-Adventure Games)/(Computer RPGs) and treat the console or computer system as a familiarity? What kind of default should there be between platformer games like Super Mario Bros and Megaman and action-adventure games like Legend of Zelda or Metal Gear? At what penalty would RPGs like Dragon Warrior default to either? Maria Lucia Estevez will spend ca 1-2 points, maybe by just taking one Games speciality, maybe using the Dabbler perk to improve defaults at multiple ones, to be good at computer games. Should Computer Operations at IQ+3 give a higher default to Games ([insert computer game]) than just IQ-4? |
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Her older brothers would have been programming/jury-rigging obsolete hardware (i.e. stuff her father brought home a year or two before) to play Spacewar! and Pong basically ever since she remembers. There would have been gaming consoles in her home from her seventh year onwards. And while her mother wanted to raise her to be an elegant and perfect princess who combined academic and extra-curricular success with future marital eligibility, all her best memories of her father involve playing around with various technical hardware with him on the rare occasions he was home and not busy. In a sense, Pong and later, more complex computer games, were her 'playing catch in the backyard'. Ironically, she would probably have been ill-at-ease in an arcade, being sheltered and not having friends her own age. Skipping grades due to academic excellence and having a very full schedule of 'hobbies' that impress Deans of Admissions and super-moms are not conductive to having loads of friends to hang out with in high school. And while she did attend an exclusive Beverly Hills school, where her background was not glaringly out of place, her family was about a level of Status and two or three of Wealth above even that inflated norm. Being chauffeured to school in a limo can be cool for a cool kid, but for someone already feeling like an outsider, it sets one further apart. |
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Here's something that might not be obvious to people not from the U.S.A. The Migratory Bird Treaty with Canada gave the federal government the right and obligation to regulate hunting of all native migratory bird species. One of these regulations is that you can only hunt migratory birds with shotguns or archery, and if you are using a shotgun, that shotgun cannot hold more than three shells, including the one in the chamber. As a consequence, bird hunters usually put a dowel (or other similar device) in their shotgun's magazine in order to limit its capacity to two shells. This dowel is rarely removed, so a civilian hunter's shotgun will usually only have three shots. Now, there is no law against having a shotgun with a higher magazine capacity, you just can't hunt game birds or waterfowl with it.
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Time of death determination in the 1980s
I've written up the dates when the known and suspected victims of the 'Werewolf of the Village', the serial killer for whose investigation which the PCs are providing support.
I still don't know how precisely the ME could date the time of death in the 1980s. Most of the bodies were found more than three months after death, after having been submerged in water for much of that time. They may have been kept in a freezer before being disposed of in water. A minority of the suspected victims were found on dry land, but all except one had been dead for at least three weeks before discovery. I know that most of the standard time-of-death determinators depend on biological indicators that just aren't present in bodies that have been in water for months. Judging from the level of decomposition seems, from Googling, to be pretty imprecise, especially if you cannot be certain that the body has spent all the time since death in the same environment. That leaves, what, forensic entomology? Which was fairly new as a legal-scientific discipline in American law enforcement in the 1980s and nowhere near as effective as today. Also, submerged cadavers stymie most early efforts in the field, as forensic underwater entomology lagged (and still does) far behind land-based forensic entomology. Forensic botany, specifically forensic palynology, was effective at narrowing down the season of death for mass graves discovered in the 90s and 00s. I'm not sure whether it would yield relevant information from a cadaver submerged for months. The precise scientific methods used to determine the time of death would be interesting, but probably not all that relevant to my PCs, who are not expected to check crime scenes investigated by other agencies or investigators and who will not be involved in the prosecution of the suspect in custody. The exact times of death, however, or as near exact as possible, are of considerable importance to them in the search for a possible accomplice, as they determine the dates for which alibis must be checked. I'd like to avoid giving either too precise or too imprecise ranges for those times of death. Does anyone have a clue about how well top forensic labs could determine time of death of a months old submerged cadaver in the 1980s? Does a margin of error of about 3.5 days per month since death took place sound preposterous? Assuming that all of the cadavers in question have been frozen before disposal? Edit: Of course it sounds preposterous, it's far too accurate. +/-25% is the rule at far too many labs even today, when the cadaver is more than 16 hours old. The most precise method for estimating time of death used today was first discovered in 1991, so does not apply for my purposes. In any case, I doubt very much any vitreous humour can be recovered from a body that has spent three months submerged in water, being nibbled at by aquatic scavengers. I suspect that no scientific method available in the 1980s could give an answer more precise than questioning people who may have known the victim and determining when he or she was last seen alive. As most of the victims had no fixed address and/or limited social ties that investigators can discover*, that might not yield very precise answers. It may be that for some victims, they may be limited to an estimate of 'last seen by casual acquintance some time around Thanksgiving, probably died during winter, no later than February'. *Those who weren't homeless or prostitutes appear to have been living in squatters' communes in Alphabet City, NYC, where police has not had much success getting cooperation. It isn't that close friends of the deceased are unwilling to help if found and approached, it's that few people are willingly stepping forward and declaring an acquintance with the victims. |
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Given your scenario is set during winter, corpses on land or in a shallow stream may well have been frozen there, which would likely obscure any signs of having been in a freezer.
The season(s) for which the bodies have been out may offer clues. A corpse that was in a river during fish spawning season may be mostly de-fleshed. If I was an investigator trying to date such an event, I'd ask the local fishermen if the fish had been in different places in the last few months. A body is basically a load of ground bait. |
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Odds are that such an accomplice would be a part of his life after leaving his home township, someone from Chicago or New York, but given some of his testimony (self-serving, far-fetched and self-contradictory though it may be), checking alibis for his father and uncles, along with the closest friends of his father and uncle, is not unreasonable. And Agent Corelli (PC), who has Empathy, looked into the eyes of Dr. Pinault, best friend and likely homosexual partner of Dufresne's uncle, and felt very strongly that the man was a ruthless killer. So the working theory among the PCs is that Dr. Pinault might be the man who shaped young Dufresne into a serial killer, as well as his accomplice for several of the murders. Discovering when the murders took place is vital for proving or disproving that theory. It's very plausible that neither Dufresne nor a hypothetical accomplice may be responsible for all 19 murders, as they were assigned to the task force investigating the suspected serial slayings based on perceived similarities in MO, before there was any suspect. Principally, the bodies all show evidence of butchering and bite marks. Some of these, however, may be post-mortem, caused by scavengers. With badly decomposed bodies, distinguishing human bite marks from feral dogs or rats may be difficult, especially if investigators are looking for human bite marks. Some of the bodies may therefore be false positives. The lead FBI investigator in New York City considers it unlikely that the six male victims are authentic, for example. On the other hand, two of the victims were found almost immediately and wounds on their bodies have been matched to Dufresne's knives and the bite marks match his dentures. Five other victims are very strong probabilities as having been the work of the same killer, with the ME having found suggestive similarities in the wounding and the disposal method. Unfortunately, there are also important differences from the two confirmed victims, primarily in that the bodies of previous victims were disposed of into the Hudson or East Rivers, but the last two, the confirmed victims, were displayed in Central Park. By the same token, there is every reason to assume that the bodies recovered from the rivers and bay are not the only bodies disposed of that way. The submerged bodies floated to the surface in spring, in some cases after maceration and sloughing of skin had loosened some form of ties or weight on the legs meant to prevent resurfacing. Bodies in deeper water or less exposed to current may still lie on the bottom. There is an awful lot of water to search. |
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Cocaine poisoning
In our day, the trendy hazardous cutting or lacing agent in illicit cocaine is levamisole, which has caused several deaths. Of course, a famous one which is almost as old as drug legislation is strychnine, rat poison, which has been and is used to adulterate cocaine.
What chemicals might there be in 1988 cocaine from Florida, Montréal, Massaschuttes or New York that might cause dangerous side-effects to an otherwise healthy person? Obviously, cocaine is not healthy even uncut, but assuming a habitual user, it's something he has survived so far. I'm looking for something more dangerous than a habitual couple of grams combined with heavy drinking. On the other hand, it can't hurt to get ideas on how cocaine (maybe laced with something) could plausibly accidentally kill a new user almost immediately, perhaps someone drunk who tries a single snort. Are there any common household drugs or frequently used medications in the 80s which react violently to cocaine and/or common adulterants in it? |
Hypothermia victim first aid and treatment
Does anyone know if the recommended treatment in the 1980s of serious hypothermia, in cases where immediate hospitalisation isn't possible, would differ from modern best practice?
If one should have access to it, would one want to make use of a sauna, steam room or hot tub? |
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Hm. A pretty technical question outside my area of expertise.
But most of the research on hypothermia treatment was done from the 60s to the 80s, so I suspect state-of-the-art practices in 1980 were about the same as the routine practices today. Use of a temperature-controlled water bath is useful, but only if it's merely warm to the touch (40-45 C max), rather than hot. Keeping the limbs out of the water may be useful, because they can warm up too fast, and it's really the core temperature that you're after. The hot tub could be useful; the sauna and steam room are probably too much. (At least as they're usually used; if they have thermostats to set the heat to only a little above body temperature, it's a least a warm place to stay.) Too much heat, too fast, is actually detrimental. |
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I was trained by the Boy Scouts or America for treating hypothermia in the field in the late '80s and early '90s. In the '80s, they recommended a non-hypothermic person strip to underwear and crawl into the sleeping bag/bed/blankets with the hypothermic person to share body heat. This recommendation has since been removed because of the danger of the second person succumbing to hypothermia as well.
As far as I know the recommendations to use a heated car or building remain unchanged. We were consistently told to run a warm, but not hot bath if that was an option. This was to be only a last resort, however, because there were (anecdotal) stories of people dying of shock if the water was too warm. |
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A sauna might be handy as a tool, but only for warming blankets, towels, sheets, etc that are then brought out to wrap around the patient, never ever for putting the patient in. A hypothermic patient's ability to temperature regulate is broken, and putting them in an environment warmer than "warm" can kill them faster than leaving them somewhere cool-but-not-cold. I presume some hot tubs can be dialed down to "warm" but I know some don't for hygenic reasons. Even those that can be brought down to merely "warm", they're still deep and generally have jets - and your hypothermic patient is not in any condition to support their head reliably above water nor manage their position against water currents. A steam room would be difficult to use even to heat blankets as things would become damp, and that's bad for someone who's struggling with temperature regulation. |
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It can explicitly be set to any desired humidity and warm temperature, slightly over the desired body temperature. In 1988, getting another warm body mostly unclad and wrapped around the patient was almost certainly taught everywhere. I learned it in the 90s, after all. And it's clearly the movie/TV/RPG friendly treatment, providing reasons for sexual tension and/or almost defenceless protagonists. Having a healthy, naked person cradle the patient in a warm hot tub* or bath actually seems like it would be very effective in a case where it was fairly clear that the patient was likely to die much faster than any help could get there if her core temperature was not elevated. Of course, Agent Estevez's ritual has hopefully accomplished that, but in case Agent Corelli is not relying solely on a miracle, getting Ms. Danzig into a warm bath might appeal to him. I suppose Agent Estevez would be in favour of warm baths or a sauna. She knows that the ritual should have restored Ms. Danzig's ability to regulate her body temperature, but that she and the three agents are all still pretty cold. *Ironically, the small indoor one was established last session as being without massage jets or bubble-generating devices, hence Dr. Allen's and Dr. Pinault's possesion of marketing brochures for top-of-the-line jacuzzis. |
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From a private message, posted in thread because I'm more likely to remember it if it's found here:
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Cocaine poisoning in the 1980s
Have we no older forumites who, for reasons which no one needs to inquire in if that is not desired, have some information about the dangers of American cocaine in the 1980s, the great cocaine decade?
I tried asking before, but no answer. As I'd really like to get in some discussion about this before the next session, I'll try again. In our day, the trendy hazardous cutting or lacing agent in illicit cocaine is levamisole, which has caused several deaths. Of course, a famous one which is almost as old as drug legislation is strychnine, rat poison, which has been and is used to adulterate cocaine. What chemicals might there be in 1988 cocaine from Florida, Montréal, Massaschuttes or New York that might cause dangerous side-effects to an otherwise healthy person? Obviously, cocaine is not healthy even uncut, but assuming a habitual user, it's something he has survived so far. I'm looking for something more dangerous than a habitual couple of grams combined with heavy drinking. On the other hand, it can't hurt to get ideas on how cocaine (maybe laced with something) could plausibly accidentally kill a new user almost immediately, perhaps someone drunk who tries a single snort. Are there any common household drugs or frequently used medications in the 80s which react violently to cocaine and/or common adulterants in it? |
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I thought meth is the big drug that was/is ****ing over rural people in the US?
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I don't know how it was in the 80s, though. I think that methamphetamine wasn't a part of the drug world until 1980 or so and that originally, it was confined to California and the Mexico border. And the 80s are a time of cocaine. That's the drug that Special Agent Rene Ledoux (PC) encountered most often in his undercover work in Miami and the PCs have reason to believe that cocaine is the favourite drug of Jackie Flowers, the Montréal-based felon that they arrested in the process of beating up attorney Ricky Sommiers. |
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Keep the ideas coming, I need a range of possibilities. My players read the forums and their characters are red-hot investigators, one of whom has fairly extensive knowledge of the East Coast drug world, so it would be good if their skills would yield a number of possibilities. Also, as I won't reveal which, if any, suggestions from the forumites I do use, reading them won't reveal damaging spoilers for the game. |
Musical Instruments
Using the rules for Musical Instruments from LTC1, there are a few TL5+ instruments which aren't accounted for there.*
Ought the simple harmonica fall under the Sheng skill or should it be its own skill? What ought to be the defaults between a harmonica and a saxophone? Or any other wind instrument, for that matter? What instruments would you learn as a hobbyist, amateur musician and later academic/connoisseur studying blues, jazz and cajun music in Louisiana and New Orleans? *Which is understandable, as Low-Tech should only cover TL0-4. |
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Harmonicas don't have fingering, so it's not really a close match for Sheng as described in LTC1. Closer to panpipes, as you select different pitches with horizontal motion of the instrument. But it's still a bit different as you've got the internal reed rather than having to form a stream of air to split across the flute opening. I might just make it its own skill, since it doesn't really match the characteristics listed for the other categories.
Default to saxophone? Looking at the existing ones, probably -6. It's as different from a sax as is a flute, and not nearly as close as the horns are to each other at -4. Classic blues instrumentation includes the guitar and piano, as well as the harmonica and drums. Dixieland jazz will bring in trumpets and trombones, clarinet, tuba and/or string bass, and maybe the banjo. Cajun folk music will throw in the fiddle (violin) and accordion. |
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Dogs that suit the owner's personality
Two characters will have dogs that are present in the luxury cabin. I want breeds that suit the characters in question, even to the point that they may be considered archtypical of aspects of their personality or their role in the story. At the same time, I want it to be possible for these dog breeds to be kept in 1988 Maine.
1) For Dr. Harvey Allen, I was thinking a Chocolate Lab. Dr. Allen was raised in rural Maine, by a rugged outdoorsy kind of father, a lumber magnate, but Harvey was a continual disappointment to his harsh father. The upbringing succeeded in instilling a fondness for nature walks and at least a modest interest in shooting sports, but instead of becoming a lawyer from a local college on a football scholarship, working summers in the logging camps, Harvey went to Harvard on an academic scholarship and ended up a neurologist. Dr. Allen was and remains 'soft', nervous around violence and blood, but appears to be both intelligent and capable of great affection. He is loyal to his family and friends, as well as having been in the same loving relationship for all of his adult life. Harvey might be perceived as slightly feminine, at least by the standards of 20th century manhood, in that he has a strong home-making, nesting aspect to his personality. He is the sort to provide accessorized lavender bath towels, robes and hand towels for his guest bathrooms, he wears flowery aprons and stylish eyeglasses with mother-of-pearl frames. Physically, he is an inch or two above average height and neither weak nor unhealthy. Considering his healthy hobbies, generally happy disposition and attention to a good diet, his physical health is probably exceptional for a man in his late forties in a high-stress occupation, but he is in no way, shape or form any kind of action man. Any suggestions for a breed which might be better suited? 2) Phil Willette is a burly man's man, 6'2", 240 lbs., hirsute and strongly built. He looks like Powers Boothe and he wears jeans, plaid shirts and working boots. The PCs aren't sure if he's a good guy or not, but if he's a bad guy, he's a Big Bad Wolf, whereas if he is a good guy, he's the kind of dog who keeps the wolves from the door. He fought in Korea all those many decades ago, likes to hunt and has a lot of outdoorsy hobbies. What kind of dog should he own? |
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Would a Newfoundland be more or less imposing than an Irish wolfhound? Of course, Phil's dog will most likely not be a registered purebred of any kind, it will be a homebred mutt, but it will probably resemble some breed which contributed heavily to its genetic make-up. |
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I'd give him a Rottweiler. Big dog with a scary reputation, a good working breed, yet a lovable lap dog for those that treat them right. :)
Maybe a German Shepherd for that same feel if you think a Rottie is sending too much of a "Big Bad Wolf" vibe. |
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The standard substance used to cut cocaine was "baby laxative", mannitol IIRC.
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LTC makes Musical Instrument (Single Reed) one skill and Musical Instrument (Double Reed) another. Musical Instrument (Sheng) is another and Musical Instrument (Flute), (Horn), (Panpipes), (Recorder), (Serpent) and (Trombone) are yet others. And that's just some of the aerophones. |
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This is a bit different from the Hornbostel-Sachs classification scheme (aerophones, chordophones, etc), which is about the low-level physical mechanism that produces sound. A guitar (chordophone) and an electric guitar (electrophone) are in entirely different categories, but are played essentially the same way. (I hedge because of things like distortion knobs and external boxes operated by foot pedals that you often see with the electric guitar, but rarely used with the acoustic ones.) And I'm having a hard time thinking of an instrument that you play like a harmonica. All those little holes produce individual pitches, sometimes different when you inhale and exhale (or "blow" and "draw", as Agent Ledoux would probably say, assuming that's the New Orleans Cajun that we were talking about). You need lip and tongue motion to cover up holes that you don't want to use, or sometimes deliberately leave multiple holes uncovered to produce chords. The sheng is fingered, but not like a flute or clarinet. The holes in a sheng don't adjust the length of the resonant air column, and thus its pitch. The pitches come from the reeds in those tubes, and leaving the holes uncovered means the tube doesn't resonate and so no volume of sound is produced at that pitch. Close multiple tubes and you get a chord, rather than a different pitch. It's actually somewhat more like the mechanism of an accordion, though it doesn't have the bellows to push air over the reeds. Looking at a few YouTube videos, embouchure doesn't seem to be a thing for producing a sound, though I'd guess that's how the musicians are doing vibrato. At any rate, that and a harmonica are both free-reed aerophones, but I'd expect minimal skill transference between them. LTC mentions the harmonic in the sheng skill description just as an example of a "free reed" more hopefully familiar to its Western audience. I'd completely agree with LTC's classification of "horns" as being all the same. With Trumpet skill (modest though that was), I had little trouble playing a French horn, baritone, or tuba, though there were some noticable differences in producing and maintaining a decent tone on the different instruments (having to do with breath control). Trombone is played exactly the same way, but it has the factor that it has the slide for pitch, rather than three valves to select different pipe lenghts. LTC gives those a -2 default, so that's our mark for "different fingering". The other end of the scale is "pretty much completely different", at -6. The one step further than that is just "no default". We have -6s between Flute and Single/Double Reed, even though the fingering between the two is the same. The differences in embouchure and even the way you hold it (note the -3 between Single Reed and Recorder) seem to be considered more important than the fingering. So, at great length, I'm still stuck on not being able to think of anything you hold and move and blow like a harmonica, or "finger" ("tongue"?) the same way. "No default" seems pretty reasonable to me, or possibly a -6 to other free reeds (sheng, bagpipes (at least the drones; the chanter is a single or double reed), accordion, concertina, melodica) if you think the HS categorization is important. Harmonica wouldn't default to piano or guitar or horns or sax at all. The only commonality I can come up with there is just breath control, and even there the harmonica has both blow and draw, unlike the horns and single/double reeds. |
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I had an idiot neighbor in the 80s who had a Rottweiler. He kept it on a chain because it could almost step over the 4 foot high chain link fence. It managed to get over the fence once even with its' chain. It only barked with incredible ferocity and lunged at people because it was lonely and wanted you to come play. It was perfectly friendly once it got loose. A Rottweiler may have been rare in the 70s but not the 80s. In the 70s you might have seen a Doberman in the same niche (which I fear might be "dog for idiots"). |
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