[DF] A Couple of Nymph Questions
 

OK my first question is kinda simple, Nymph's get the Universal Enhancement to their Apperance, but from what I can see they don't need it, that Enhancement works by saying that your looks affect people not of your race, but that seems to be the norm for DF, so in effect Nymph's are forced to pay extra as everyone seems to be attracted to everyone in DF. I mean there might be exceptions, but they're probably pretty rare.

The second one is harder, but possibly more interesting. I recently read this sentence "The stories about nymphs that can merge with brooks, trees, and so on..." And misread brooks as books and thought to my self 'That's probably playable, you'd have to get someone to carry you around, probably someone enthralled by you.'

For this I'm thinking the Nymph would have No Legs (Portable) from THS:CT and an Ally with Minion and Slave Mentality, is that valid and is there anything I'm missing?

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I believe this quote says is best:
"Your Nymph Bard is so hot, she even gets hit on by slime molds."

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Her tree got pulped for paper, if so she may have more than one book.

Just picture a mage unfurling a recently picked up scroll during a fight with said nymph and her fist comes out of the scroll.

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Universal does more than simply affect every race. It also makes appearance a flat value instead of a greater and less value. Normally a nymph would be +8/+2 (Gender specific), but for Nymph it's +5 to everyone and everything (Man, woman, slime, dragon...)

Also I'm pretty sure race still matters in Dungeon Fantasy. If you look at the Fantasy book on (P.130) it talks about appearances. I remember in another book it gives a good rule of thumb that you should use physiology modifiers for races when such things come up (B.181). So you're probably looking at -2 modifier most likely for interracial mingling. Maybe people DO think Elves are attractive, but it might be taboo. Universal would probably mitigate this. Even if Dungeon Fantasy doesn't say this directly, I'd still probably apply it. After all, half-races aren't everywhere for a reason.

On the second question, I don't know why you'd give the Nymph no legs? They can still walk, they're just being carried about. Otherwise the Ally I'd probably remove slave mentality. This would clearly be the +50% version. Slave Mentality generally figures they can't do anything without your direction. The +50% means they can still act but are utterly loyal. It lists "Awe" as being a reason for the +50% which Transcendence in appearance can certainly inspire.

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Humans, elves, and orcs seem to find each other roughly attractive to each other by their stated values along a spectrum. Nymphs are hot to cat-folk, coleopterans, dark ones, and trolls who would otherwise not care.

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You do realize this means that Coleopterans and Trolls only suffer from their racially bad looks when dealing with members of their own species, right?

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You're mixing default GURPS assumptions with Dungeon Fantasy. A supplement like GURPS Space typically breaks down attractiveness by race for reasons of scientific plausibility. DF only cares about how things affect gameplay. Attractiveness matters for anything with vaguely human-like tastes.

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That's correct, and the Universal Enhancement changes that by saying your Appearance effects people not normally attracted to your race, but DF seems to work with everyone using the same meter-stick, that is every race is potentially attracted to every other.

And then there's something I didn't think of before, I can't be sure but applying Universal may mean it's not sexual attractiveness

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I thought that was the Impressive (+0%) modifier, not Universal. Same price and reaction adjustments, though.

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Universal means your Appearance effects people who aren't normally effected by the physical Appearance of your race, that DOES sound like it could well be non-sexual

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I don't remember if/how this is modified for DF, but recall that Appearance is split into Appearance (My Own Race And Its Close Similar Ones) and Appearance (Whatever Races Are Considered Most Important), both costing as normal.

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I thought that the second one required the Universal Enhancement, which is sort of the problem, Nymph's are the ONLY race that seem to need this to effect other races

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No, the Universal Enhancement makes it apply to everything:
"If a level of Appearance is taken at
the standard point cost, its reaction
modifiers can apply either to your own
race and races that closely resemble it,
or to the dominant race in your world
and races that closely resemble it. If
they apply to both, treat this as the
Universal enhancement to
Appearance level (+25%).
Example: Orcs have Unattractive
appearance (-1 reaction modifier).
This affects humans and races that
resemble humans, such as elves. Orcs
don’t find other orcs exceptionally
unattractive."

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In Dungeon Fantasy, Appearance is normally relevant to "living members of all humanoid races." This has no extra cost. When you slap on the premium for Universal, you also get to be charming to undead, demons, dragons, and everything else – you're some sort of supernatural visual spectacle that impresses everything with a sense of sight, which explains why flat reaction modifiers are used (a lot of entities might notice your looks but be incapable of sexual attraction). Note how it's only nymphs and celestials, a pair of overtly supernatural races, that have this enhancement on their Appearance.

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I have often thought there should be an extra level of attractiveness above Universal Transcendant, where grant +8 vs 'things attracted to my type' and +5 to other things.

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So make it =) It'll only be... 40 points.